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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Mar 27, 2006 18:38

You know what .. ? I like your effrontery
Im giving you here somthing i done for you
now you (And all) can use it the way u want
(If its will help someone it will makes me be
happy) But man .. Its not an alternative for
lorning how to do it , remember that ! Just
want to be nice , After all .. First time for me
seeing here someone with a courage thats
pressent the things in so funy way .. Cheers

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LLI68KY3RBKU3BU08W6EDQ3HR
unproject


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Posted : Mar 27, 2006 20:22
^ I think the thread-starter was asking for a project file, pal.
Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Mar 28, 2006 03:08

I dont care send him a file (cubase 1) but what it
can help if he dont have the vsts im working with
the file will never work in his computer .
bukboy
Hyperboreans

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Posted : Mar 28, 2006 15:07
I wanted 2 send u a small track. but then I remembered what it was like when I saw other peoples projects.

Its like code without comments.(this is a subjective comparison)
U need 2 see a buddy working with it & ask Y he's doing this or that. looking at the project just confirms ur knowledge of what u do understand, and nothing else. (U need a background of concepts.)
It only really makes sense to the creator.
I didnt learn a thing from other projects apart from what vsts sounded like, and that external filters are cool.

I did learn a crapload from music theory, david gibsons mixing book, and engineers handbook. I do recommend that u read those since ul learn more comprehensively than if u ask general questions here, & these will give insight in2 production which will let u set up projects from urself.

Dont bother looking at other peoples projects. really u cant learn anything there.
0v3rd0s3d
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 28, 2006 16:18
Quote:

On 2006-03-28 15:07, bukboy wrote:

Its like code without comments.(this is a subjective comparison)




exactly each person has his/her way of doing things ... the best way to learn, if you know nothing is to find someone that knows how it works and ask him, politely , if that person can show u the basics of the sequencer ... the rest is with you
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Mar 29, 2006 22:29

Bukboy & 0v3rd0s3d 100 % right !

No one can lorn or understand how to lorn (Even)
by waching project (On cubase file) When he didt
know the all way and procedure & process how to
get into and only by waching . This act sholud be &
come by fastened guidance and 1/1 instruction no
other way (Books - By reading) Without this leads
All the idea is just redundant and unnecessary &
look amateurish & sound not serious from the all
beginning .
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Mar 29, 2006 22:55
Sure u can learn, check out Atmas tutorial, i am sure lot of people learn a lot from it            Signature
0v3rd0s3d
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 29, 2006 23:12
well... let me say something, people learn because, i guess, they have the basics ...
and let me say that cubase is much more complex than FL ...
if u have an entire track, probably u wont even know all the plugs and stuff it has, and how to do some things if u dont know how to use the sequencer ... FL is much more user friendly than cubase ... this is my opinion
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Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 00:13
FL can be as complex as cubase, in my opinion..
its just that often you just learn a few basics and then try to do a track based on that...

there is so much to learn..

the Atma project is great, though if i was a complete newbie i would not understand much of what to do with it, and i would have no reference of how it was build, at least now i have a remote picture of whats going on..

i think that you will only learn what you are capable of conceive.

i must agree with bukboy.
but even so, if you get a project and you got some experience you will probably notice alot of stuff..

like, the baseline has velocity changes,
the peaky lead has volume automation
ect ect... you name it

but to understand this you need to know about velocity changes and volume automation...
if you dont, then it will probably just be a mystery..

peace..

Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 05:51

On 2006-03-30 00:13, New Era Scientist wrote:

FL can be as complex as cubase



Well .. from time to time im expose to good jokes
and this is 1 of them (Didt expect to hear it from
u my friend god know how you get into this un -
true conclusion .. Almost funy saying that) when
i learn the Fl - I made the first track in a day When
in the cubase its took me 2 weeks (I dont talk now
about the learning the prog' by my self & alon for
almost 9 month) . There is nothing to compar or
even think or imagin that (Again .. Cant belive you
say that , Its maybe fit to some others here in this
site but not to you) And i dont think they both can
be say in a one breath , And pls lets not fight .. Its
a fact . Good morning isratrance .. !
Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 06:57
hey Cardinals Carttel

maybe it was not such a wise idea to say "FL can be as complex as cubase" cause thats not the truth..

anyway
you know me, im not looking for hot discussion, i like them cool and calm..

i have a hard time believing that you know all the ins and outs of FL... the program has lots of features,
i dont know half of them, but i havent used FL constantly, but i used it for a long time, but never learnd it completely...

Cubase is not that difficult, all is strange at first look, but if you spend time with it, you will learn, as for everything... but i dont know half of cuabse features either..

im saying that FL can be Complex, but not as complex as cubase can be.. well they are completley different programs.

i dont understand why you dont think FL cant be complex... you can make all sorts of strange routings and automations, amongst other stuff....

in my opinion it can be complex, it can be what you want it to be.... but of course if you read the manual and work out every feature, it will not be difficult at all...
Nobita
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 07:09
Quote:

On 2006-03-30 05:51, Cardinals Carttel wrote:

On 2006-03-30 00:13, New Era Scientist wrote:

FL can be as complex as cubase



Well .. from time to time im expose to good jokes
and this is 1 of them (Didt expect to hear it from
u my friend god know how you get into this un -
true conclusion .. Almost funy saying that) when
i learn the Fl - I made the first track in a day When
in the cubase its took me 2 weeks (I dont talk now
about the learning the prog' by my self & alon for
almost 9 month) . There is nothing to compar or
even think or imagin that (Again .. Cant belive you
say that , Its maybe fit to some others here in this
site but not to you) And i dont think they both can
be say in a one breath , And pls lets not fight .. Its
a fact . Good morning isratrance .. !




I proclaim you high preacher of the anti-FL dogma.           Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream.
Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 07:37

Hey .. New Era Scientist , Whats up friend ?
Yes yes yes .. All in life can be hard and
difficult some times and i think its all are (&)
from the view of the observer & spectator .

I know that u are peace maker pls stay that
way , You got a high expertise , cleverness
and life shrewdness i always love to read .. !



Demezriel - With all the respect & honor this
is not the truth .. (Do u think i realy care .. ?)
I just like to say what other dont , When you
will see & look on the complete package and
test & assay the rectangle and frame from all
the sides you will find im right . Lets put the
talk for a minute out and jump back to the
reality . Great sweet day there .. !
Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 08:12
Hey Cardinals Carttel my friend
not much happening, i havent sleept yet, hehe,
im going to go demo the Yamaha AW1600 Digital Porta later today, i tried the Korg D3200 before, though it seems to be a overkill for me... but i have a friend who works with selling music equipment so i could get it cheap, (the korg)
im hoping that i can use the yamaha as a remote controller for cubase, like a mixer... but im sure im wrong and that its just possible to use midi to remote the aw1600... if thats the case i guess i will buy a BCF 2000 from behringer, cause i want my hands on the mix, i think if i use groupchannels ill be able to mix with 8 faders... but 16 faders would be nice...

thats whats up mate hehe
how are you? and whats up?
Boobytrip
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Mar 30, 2006 10:06
I know this is off-topic, but...

@New era scientist: I use the Behringer BCF-2000 and i really love it. If you use it in Mackie-emulation mode you don't have to use it for just the group tracks, but you can move through your cubase mixer in steps of 8 channels with a button on the BCF; a led above the channel on the BCF corresponds to the active track in cubase. It's almost too easy, ghe ghe ghe Highly recommended.

As for the example track: i think it works best if you see how some of your friends work, and use that as a startingpoint. It's not going to help if someone holds your hand while you move the mouse.
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