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example for track with and without professional mastering

dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : May 16, 2011 16:01:06
I've just recieved the master for my remix to "Ephedrix- Prototype" so i thought it would be nice to give those of you that never did mastering to hear the difference between professional mastering and amateurish mastering.

This is the mastering i did (the amateurish):





and this is the proffesional mastering:


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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 16, 2011 16:16
Interesting Who did the pro job?           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : May 16, 2011 16:18
interesting indeed.. but on my small speakers (nice ones) its sounds almost the same , or actually your version has nicer low end and better dynamics then the pro

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PoM
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Posted : May 16, 2011 16:29
they both have pro and cons (the pro seems more muddy and not sure i like the pump) dunno if one is really better than the other not in the crappy headphone i m listening...yours seemms louder so it s not really a fair comparaison. who mastered?pro mastering is a big word , big part of psytrance is mastered by amateurs.(and some do it just great,it's not pejorative)
dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : May 16, 2011 17:59
my mastering is louder at about 1.5 db. the pro is about -10db rms. i think today's standarts are at least -9. i'm not sure realy who did it. dacru records sent it to mastering because it's gonna be released there. the pro sounds more compressed to me. i don't know much about mastering. i just did few basics things i know. maybe the pro is better on big speakers or something. i don't know...what i realy wanted to show here to the begginers that mastering doesn't do miraceles. i remember i thougt before that after mastering i will hear big improvement but after i did i realized it's not like that...           http://www.youtube.com/user/ChichkeMultiTech
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http://twitter.com/chichkemusic
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PoM
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Posted : May 16, 2011 18:06
yeah wich one you like the most?would like to listen on my monitors but i can t on my net computer
PoM
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Posted : May 16, 2011 18:10
you dont have a bit more than 30 euros to spend ? so we compare it with dj misjah mastering jk.. but i m very curious about misjah work
PoM
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Posted : May 16, 2011 18:23
not really my taste but nice track btw..imo it could benefit from having a more hyped, more comercial and expensive sound.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 16, 2011 18:25
I think there are both amateur and professional mastering engineers out there who could have done a better job than whoever Dacru chose. If I wasn't so stacked up with work right now I'd offer to give it a shot myself, just to see what I could get out of the track.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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barhodomri

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Posted : May 16, 2011 18:28
Quote:

On 2011-05-16 17:59, dj chichke wrote:
my mastering is louder at about 1.5 db. the pro is about -10db rms. i think today's standarts are at least -9. i'm not sure realy who did it. dacru records sent it to mastering because it's gonna be released there. the pro sounds more compressed to me. i don't know much about mastering. i just did few basics things i know. maybe the pro is better on big speakers or something. i don't know...what i realy wanted to show here to the begginers that mastering doesn't do miraceles. i remember i thougt before that after mastering i will hear big improvement but after i did i realized it's not like that...




The official mastering was made by Silicon Sound http://www.discogs.com/artist/Silicon+Sound

The key to a good mastering track is a track that sounds good on every sound system.
Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack

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Posted : May 16, 2011 19:50
I think most people who have some experience and a pair of great monitors could get a proper mastering done that would work perfect on every party out there. Sure some have a better ear and a cleaner result, but i wouldn't pay 500-600€ for someone "pro" to master my album when i would never see that money for actually making the album itself. Then i reather do it myself and haveing it checked by trusted friends with other kinds of monitors. and voulá u saved couple of hundred €'s.

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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : May 16, 2011 21:42
btw - if its on v.a then it needs to do the CD mastering not individual tracks.. so might have been better but not fit to other tracks.           www.sattelbattle.com
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Supa Tu Zill
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Posted : May 16, 2011 22:46
Pro mastering is "fatter" and "nicer" at semi-high freqs imo.

And very nice thread btw!
elastic_plastic
Re-Boot

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Posted : May 17, 2011 10:01
i dont think dacru will enjoy this post!! hehe

i like both.... i have very limited knowledge to mastering so cannot comment on this bro!!

good luck though!
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : May 17, 2011 11:40
Quote:

On 2011-05-16 19:50, Wizack Twizack wrote:
but i wouldn't pay 500-600� for someone "pro" to master my album when i would never see that money for actually making the album itself. Then i reather do it myself and haveing it checked by trusted friends with other kinds of monitors. and voulá u saved couple of hundred �'s.

cheers!



This. I am mixing down and mastering our next EP for Neurobiotic. The label said go ahead with the mastering anyway and the feedback from the mixes has been great.

Regarding the examples on here, the "amateur" master is louder so not much of a fair comparison...I do think the mids are more tamed in the pro master tho.


Peace out.           
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