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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 15:53
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On 2010-06-26 11:13, Serag wrote:
at least selective and for sure with way more taste.
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We'll agree to disagree on that one then, innit.
The point I want to get across is having your own taste in music, is one thing, talking bollocks about the people who don't share your taste, is another thing that makes you look like a right tw@t.
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On 2010-06-26 10:06, V3NOM wrote:
Why would you stay doing something not profitable? Why work in a scene that pays little and judges you so harshly? |
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Cause you love the music and can't stop making it? and couldn't care less what people say about it?
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On 2010-06-26 10:06, V3NOM wrote:
I was wrong for paying out a Lady Gaga remix of Disco Hooligans, as I have gone back to listen to said remix and it is well done & they deserve credit for it.
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hehehe, it was a pisstake, and the "serious" people that listen to "serious 150+ darkpsy", are too serious to have a sense of humour...not that it matters anyway, we had fun in studio making it and given the chance we will make another pop-trance bootleg of a massive pop tune, cause its a right laugh and could not care less about what the handful of "undergound" people that frequent forums, have to say about it.
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On 2010-06-26 10:06, V3NOM wrote:
I find the whole "underground" attitude of this scene laughable now. I think some of the commercial full on is actual pretty cool in the right setting & mood, as is the housier n; electro side of prog... it's a bit shallow to write off things for not being in your own definition of "underground".
Rant out.
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+1.
Peace out. 
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:33
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yeah?
u know who is beat agency??? is washuwara author of tracks like "Trance African Express" so better be careful cause he is GOD pfffffffffffff man thats so hilarious!
lady gaga oh my lord! hahaha
neXt please!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:36
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and you dont know who the fuck I am. There are not idosl for me  and to be honest never ever in my whole 3 decades sth there never was sth.
Im pretty satisfied with that what Im doing musicaly.
and about goa trance music...children ..listen up ...I only mean the children here from the dark kindergarden ,,the allknowigs hehe
YEs Trance AFrica Express is the tune that I mostly connect to the whole goa movement.
Without them some of your tunes would probably sound like gabba.
Sereg you are the only one guy here that is hiliruos and funny.  bye bye..I enjoy observing your emotional outbursts on internet forums hahaha good boy.
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:39
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and you dont know who the fuck I am!
hahahahaha!! i cant anymore!!! |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:40
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I do not need to be careful and I do not care who you are someone else is...the only thing that is important is it positif or negativ..you are an emotional idiot..cheers it was a pleasure to communicate with you.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:43
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no one in this whole genre is more god to me than a normal human.Tbh in this music very extremely..mostly it is a poor music of big emotional people that wanna be sth very magic and high seen tha other part is guys who wanna tell you whow much more they do know,or thay do not need to communicate with you ,because they dont know who you are and and and..funny circle.. I have often a nice time here..when I have nothing better to do.
There are of course cool spirits for sure in this scene too..but to me the most have changed their interestts meanwhile.
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:45
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well man or girl, i dont know ...
dont get sensi, i respect that u like trance african express, u dont need to get so bursted , i never said nothing about you, so keep it cool 
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 16:58
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 18:05
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Sisco Holygas (thats for the troll thing)
why u throw this vibe to me? i just answered to Beat Agency and even he has more class than the rest of you guys.
im so sorry if i am an ignorant of what you worship, it was ever my intention to hurt your gods.
NoW,
i dont like full on progry techi posh trancy tiny tunes
for me this is commercial music and i am not into it.
but it doesn't mean nothing, is just my taste,
nOW,
u dont like "dark" psy as u people call it, cool!
then we are talking about oil and water.
my mistake was to don't specify the sector of music that i was directing my topic and suggestions. my apologies for that too!
So i will just re-frase it in a better and clear way:
i would like to find a solution for the people of the "underground" psychedelic scene so they can release more music and play outside their countries.
i would like a better future for my dear beloved artists that are working their asses off in their homes to have the opportunity to be on a stage and realize them selfs as artists.
do you have any advise of how can we do this?
even if you are in a different sector?
please go ahead and let it flow
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 18:30
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On 2010-06-26 11:13, Serag wrote:
at least selective and for sure with way more taste.
i think i have been invaded by strange people in this topic... with  principles
but anyway i wish that some of the freaks that support the real psychedelic music would post something...
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it's not a question about taste, it's about respecting that some people might not have the same as you. there are lot of genres of music i don't like but it doesn't mean that i spit venom on them.
go and wank off bro, you'll feel less stressed 
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 18:39
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You can not debate rational with people who:
1. Tell everyone else who does not share their taste in music that their music is not the right kind.
2. Do not want to listen to reason.
3. Have no clue regarding the history of this scene and the fact that it's a matter of taste what people consider psychedelic.
4. Twist people's words into conclusions that are way off the original point of view.
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I for one matter never liked so-called "dark" psytrance because i think their vision and the use of "dark matter" cliches has very little to do with my vision of psychedelic psytrance and my view on the scene. And because the music is way off what I consider to be psychedelic trance (To me its mostly noise with way too fast bpms). But I recognize their right to existence and their right to think it's psychedlic.
I think we have gone way off-topic now. Maybe we shoulder get back to the topic again
Last this debate got nothing with what Sheyba or Elysium released in the past. It's about "everything would be easier...... if". I responded to that though with some thoughts about how I have heard and seen that argument for years now and how it always turn out to be Utopia. Then I continued to say that the scene has a hard time letting newcomers in because there is a monopoly of organizers who book friends and the same names year after year and artists charging over the top fees preventing the alternative artists or newcomers to get a chance unless they play for free. Etc. etc. That was part of my original post and has nothing to do with anything "Serag" came up with as a response!
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 18:44
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Beat Agency an apology if i got bursted.
But the way u putted the stats was to tight and like there was no chance to argue on that .
so i think that for sure you most know a lot of the business but u also need to be more objective before making any statements, cause not all live in the same world than you, again sorry if i took it too harsh..
really this matter about styles takes all my energies cause really, people confuse the terms and put it in a very low level.
If u hear for example psykovski u will notice that is not dark at all, furious for example is the most gifted producer of all times, he even won the skazi price as the best psytrance producer!, or chek out the parvati stuff, is pure light and delight bro.
im not talking about worshipers of the devil cause there is music like this and is just noise.
so lets dont generalize and please "dark" is for sure not the proper definition.
people freaks that go to this partys are same beautiful as you, me, as all , they just connect with different music than the more commercial one.
so i agree with you lets get back to the topic and all good.
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Posted : Jun 27, 2010 09:42
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People with little mind has little worlds.
And they try to impose their little and restricted world upon others, cause they think its best, they the truth.
They are all frustrated cause the world isnt as they dream, they feel unconfortable and anyone who try to argue with them is BS. They confront the world, they push it, they want everyone to believe in their values.
What is curious abot them, is that as purist and ultrapsychedelic they pretend to be, they dont know a basic common sense value: respect.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Jun 27, 2010 10:01
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how do you know furious it eh most gifted producer of all? have you travelled through time to go back and here every producer? have you heard every producer in the world both pro and amateur? such a statement in itself proves how dim-witted you are.
And it would be much easier if... people like you thought before they posted
I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy! |
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Serag
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Posted : Jun 27, 2010 12:44
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incredible Login and VEnom
i already asked apologies to Beat Agency i try to put things clear and what do i receive?
MORE SHIT
im inviting people to approach to this "little world" im trying to help people artists, and the only thing i keep receiving is bad vibes please go ahead throw me more shit and get more satisfaction be proud of your selfs!
u have more ego than me, your ego has beaten my ego - incredible.
i dont want to fight argue, ppl still is wanting it, so i will let you all bash more and more be happy play your game.
login you talk about respect and you are disrespecting me.
and you venom u think u are to smart?
u really think twice before posting?
man think 50 times pls!
anyway this forum i think gave all what it could give, there is nothing else to talk about, only fighting is what is getting ppl interested , thats the gasoline of this forum. how sad really.
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