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Every Rhythm is a Character
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wizanda
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Posted : Jul 18, 2010 12:34:06
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Every person has a timing, there step is different, ask them to play percussion and they will hit in their own unique way. So different rhythms will either integrate or reprogram a person; so why when psychedelic is based on deprogramming people, isn’t there more diversity? 
The I-Ching is a book of rhythms, which by chance seem to show expressions. 
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Elad
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Posted : Jul 18, 2010 15:10
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knocz
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Posted : Jul 20, 2010 15:45
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I think everyone is trying to achieve the diversity you speak about, and psytrance is the most diverse genre I've ever heard..
I know a lot of people who aren't in the psy scene and I wonder why they don't like the music... As a metal headbanger, I tent to really hate the "4 to the floor", but in psy trance everything is just so curious.. I've heard just about every genre mixed into psy trance (from classical, to kids tunes, to the backstreet boys, passing by the blues, death metal, hip hop, and back to neverland, all in one trip  ), and if I haven't then I know that eventually someone will come up and do it.
So there's this huge integration and fusion with all genres, and psy trance within has it's own divisions into sub-genres, and a lot of times two songs are considered to be in the same sub-genre if there are certain elements that are alike, which tens to repeated rhythms.
Everyone is trying to get that diversity you say about, and we can hear it on the tracks. Of course, there is a lot of "repeated" tricks and rhythms and melodies, but that's what the music scene has been about for as long as it has been sold, and musicians have always made good use of the mediocre.
Also, although someone can say a "bar" is an amount of time, and it can be divided into infinite intervals (because for and given interval in a bar, you can always divide it into two), but our brain will find it really strange when you go into crazy divisions (outside the 4/4 and 3/4 scenes). I mean, you can have a song in, lets say, 113/4, and you can create really new (and I'll say, cRaZy) rhythms easily, but it will be just crazy in our brains.
I usually say music is an ordered set of sounds, arranged to express emotion. If our brain can't recognize the order, or is too out-synced with the emotion and can't react with it, then the music won't sound like music.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 20, 2010 20:32
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jul 20, 2010 20:37
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There is a symphonic piece by Rimsky-Korsakov, which is written in 11/4 (don't remember what it was, sorry). The conductor kept on loosing count of beats and screing up, until he found his own way of counting. He would quietly recite "Rim-sky Kor-sa-kov went ab-so-lute-ly mad", while directing. 
Anyway, I doubt it would be easy to get into a trance state while dancing to an 11/4 tune. The rythmic canons are determined by the nature of the genre. You can write some really crazy stuff. It just won't be trance music anymore. |
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dija
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 03:59
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its because in music a certain consistency must be maintained in order for it to have form. a song that has no form isn't really a song. additionally in order to induce a trance or psychedelic state of mind there must be a degree of "stability" to the music. in other words it needs to be changing yet unchanging enough that the listener is comfortable with the changes when they happen without them always having to adjust to a new rythm part. when you change the rythm in dance music constantly it becomes difficult to dance to and the brain is highly responsive to changes in rythm when listening.
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