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Eskimo Bassline copy - bassline tutorial - the one and only

subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 13:54
I do a new thread this time, hope thats ok.

Being asked how to copy a specific Eskimo Bassline I did the a little attempt to one-to-one clone that sound. I tried to get as close as possible by using as few plugins as possible. Therefore it doesn't sound as perfect as the original but it sounds differently good and demonstrates that the major part of the sound is the tweaking, not the millions of magic plugins in the chain.

Since the response was very positive I upgraded the tutorial with the most typical bassline patterns used in psychedelic trance. Be aware that for the other patterns another bassline sound and kick should be used to reach a better sound.

I cloned it with three different synths. You hear: Original - Trilogy - Original - Cronx2 - Original - Scorpion - Original - Cronox with other bassline patterns.

Cronox and Trilogy Basslines have been processed with Quadrafuzz and then Voxengo Curve EQ. Scorpion has been processed first with Curve EQ then Quadrafuzz. The midi file and fxp presets are in the folder for use in other sequencers like logic or sonar.

http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/scm/html/workshops/Bassclone.php

Please note!: I do not actualy recommend CurveEQ for basic BassProcessing. Its a good tool to surgicaly achieve a specific sound. Here it was the target to achieve the impossible 1:1 copy of a specific bassline sound. For a perfect sound I would use a less analytic EQ like Voxengo Gliss EQ, URS A Series or any UAD Stuff.

Good Luck           Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 17:27
thanx for your work mate does this preset also work for cronox3, or just 2?           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!"
mk47
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 17:30
apparently ..eskimo uses no eq on his bass .. or something .. dunno .. read it here from those who claim to be in the know .. thats cool site subconsmind , and very nice job recreating that bass too .. cheers : )


hazak : what preset & wr can i dl it ? ..i know the enertopia cronox2 preset workd good with 3 ..this must too .. just copy ina folder
MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 17:34
in that pack from scm's link           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!"
subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 17:43
I believe it also works with coronx 3.

Over time I also began to use EQ on bassline more rarly.

One of the best basslines I ever did is only trilogy and voxengo LF-punch. No EQ no Compressor nothing. Just a perfectly tweaked patch and a simple preset from voxengo...

But some basssounds need eq, depends on what you are after.

All presets are in the download folder.

I believe this file is the one and only I would have ever needed to learn how to do basslines. I hope it works for others too.           Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
PoM
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 17:45
MadScientist not sure you can open the preset in cronox 3 and it s not as good as cronox 2 for bassline.
UnderTow


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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 18:54
Quote:

On 2008-02-01 17:30, mk47 wrote:
apparently ..eskimo uses no eq on his bass .. or something ..



But what does that mean exactly? If he uses something like Quadrafuzz (or equivalent) you can kind of use it as an EQ and then you don't need a separate EQ to shape the sound.

UnderTow
MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 19:25
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On 2008-02-01 17:45, PoM wrote:
MadScientist not sure you can open the preset in cronox 3 and it s not as good as cronox 2 for bassline.



damn I'll try it out later...dont think there is cronox2 as ub

are there big differences between 2 & 3, soundwise? I havent used crono much yet since I use mainly esm for bass
          https://soundcloud.com/hazak

"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!"
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 19:40
crono 3 is the shizz for basslines... with the right waves.

Haven't used anything else for a while now - can't imagine it getting much better then this.
          .
http://www.soundcloud.com/speakafreaka
subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 21:34
I never used cronox in a song, at the moment I dig trilogy.. I can do everything I want.. but I usualy have to put somthing to push under 100hz.



          Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
PoM
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Posted : Feb 2, 2008 01:11
if i remember well the cronox 3 saw is better but the envelops are not as snappy /fast.if you are on mac forget cronox ,es1 and esm are better imo.(or trilogy )
MadScientist
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Posted : Feb 2, 2008 01:26
I think trilogy has no ub version if I'm right...I'll surely stick with esm/1           https://soundcloud.com/hazak

"Have you ever had that feeling where you're not sure if you're awake or still dreaming?"
"Hmm, yeah... All the time, man - it's called mescaline. The only way to fly!"
piXan
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Posted : Feb 2, 2008 01:30
i just got tired of the alien303 and got back to Cronox3 , this f king bass is great!           www.soundcloud.com/elektroakustica/sets/downtempo/
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Feb 2, 2008 11:28
try switching to log mode on the envelopes - they are plenty snappy enough.           .
http://www.soundcloud.com/speakafreaka
Speakafreaka
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Posted : Feb 2, 2008 11:28
sorry forgot to say - also try using a vintage saw wave whih isn't 'perfect' as this will naturally attenuate the fundamental frequency a touch and you'll need less EQ.          .
http://www.soundcloud.com/speakafreaka
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