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EQ steals the power of my leads!
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hnd
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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 22:12:41
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It's the second time I approach a similar problem in my tracks: during the mixdown I realize there's too much going on in the low-mid frequencies. Apparently it's my leads again, but when I EQ the shit out of them to get rid of the muddy frequencies, it takes away most of the sound and power of the lead.
Here's the example of a simple 303 I made in Sylenth so you can get the picture:
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/62727393/file.html
And after EQ: http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/43739200/file.html
Of course this is extreme EQ cut, but when I cut less, there's a huge peak at 500hz that messes with my mix... How to have both powerful leads and a clean mix? Any suggestions will be welcome  |
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Hypereal
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Posted : Feb 28, 2014 22:58
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Maybe your acoustics tricks you and second try combination of lowcut(try steeper cut like 48 db/octave) and lowshelve,also look for some stereoizing,panning of that channel or even M/S processing.Final listen with context of mix.Cheers |
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hnd
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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 01:34
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I'll try with that, thanks! It was driving me mad;) |
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Bipolar
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Posted : Mar 1, 2014 04:32
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Try not to make your cuts so aggressive in your eq, try to use different eqs for each part of your track, like one eq plugin for the bass, and other type of eq plugin for your leads, remember to use stereo imaging in your leads, you can use stereo imaging plugins, or maybe you can multiply your channels and send one to the right and one to the left. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 2, 2014 22:32
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it's down to the arrangement then...
you should try and distribute the sounds in the mix on the spectrum, so not much EQ is needed to make them fit inside the mix. it starts with the note you choose, then filter settings on instruments (maybe you're cutting to much highs or there aren't many), so forth and so on. but usually choosing different octaves for different sounds is where it's at. cheers |
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routingwithin
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Posted : Mar 3, 2014 14:45
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Dont use too many leads together that has that mid range mud in. yes the arrangement playes its role. I usually give my 200hz-800hz range only one sound at a time-
also try using low shelf instead of highpass or play with the Q because having a steep Q may take away some of the energy.
And finally try scooping with a fairly wide Q the muddy area out with only 2dbs or more, though this is not usually a standard in production.
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Mar 3, 2014 18:09
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On 2014-03-03 14:45, routingwithin wrote:
Dont use too many leads together that has that mid range mud in. yes the arrangement playes its role. I usually give my 200hz-800hz range only one sound at a time-
also try using low shelf instead of highpass or play with the Q because having a steep Q may take away some of the energy.
And finally try scooping with a fairly wide Q the muddy area out with only 2dbs or more, though this is not usually a standard in production.
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^^^^^^^
and more...
having a good bassline driving the track will give the power u need sometimes in ur mix at all....well my leads always are low cutted at 100hz, i always leave the other space, than i do some finals cuts, high passes on low octave leads, cut a little bit more to right till 400hz on c3 c4 leads...always plawing with octaves...
sometimes a little notch cut on 300-500hz on c2-c3 leads will open some space in the lead soud and give some strenght...
OTHER THING
if the leads are'nt sounding good with or without EQ, then u need to better Synthesize it mate... mono leads have more strenght,less ressonance on straight leads and soo on
cheers
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Mar 4, 2014 06:57
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On 2014-03-03 14:45, routingwithin wrote:
And finally try scooping with a fairly wide Q the muddy area out with only 2dbs or more, though this is not usually a standard in production.
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but should be. mixing has a lot to do with enhancing what you like about a sound in context, even if it just means lowering the volume on less relevant parts of it. |
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Aedge
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Posted : Mar 10, 2014 15:31
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On 2014-03-01 04:32, Bipolar wrote:
Try not to make your cuts so aggressive in your eq, try to use different eqs for each part of your track
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This right here. When obtaining the right timbre, I'll make sharp cuts on annoying frequencies, but usually I never go below -6db. I feel that even unwanted frequencies HAVE to be there. |
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Mar 10, 2014 15:51
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On 2014-03-01 04:32, Bipolar wrote:
Try not to make your cuts so aggressive in your eq, try to use different eqs for each part of your track
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This right here. When obtaining the right timbre, I'll make sharp cuts on annoying frequencies, but usually I never go below -6db. I feel that even unwanted frequencies HAVE to be there.
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well with my nordlead2x im doing many notchs cut between 500-1khz, some strech some a little bit larger to open space, it give some great boost on the timbre
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hnd
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Posted : Mar 11, 2014 14:44
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thank you guys for so much useful information.
people on this forum are simply amazing |
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