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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:27
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:44
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even if they meet at some freqs (which is bad practice if it lasts long) they cannot have the same significance...that would be mayhem.
Try avoiding having them (as you describe) in the same freq area...but if you have to you can always side-chain them |
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:47
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3 leads playing at once
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each lead being e.q.d to let each other leads shine through... (it helps if they're in different octaves, but it's not necessary).
So if theres a particular section of the frequency spectrum where the one lead is strongest, but the other leads aren't, reduce that section of the other leads.
Simple as 
There are no "rules" as such, but merely ways of being technically and creatively logical about the sound.
For annoying harmonics there is of course the classic 'notch-sweep' as previously explained.
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:50
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On 2005-12-13 23:44, koniord wrote:
even if they meet at some freqs (which is bad practice if it lasts long) they cannot have the same significance...that would be mayhem.
Try avoiding having them (as you describe) in the same freq area...but if you have to you can always side-chain them
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How are you going to side-chain three leads to eachother!?
By having one key input (i.e. one lead) affecting two others in a group track which are already sidechained in that group track?!
I really don't see the point of that when you can just e.q. to be honest.
Seems far too complex a procedure for what it's worth plus the results won't be particularly smooth will they?
It won't work either if you have three leads playing at the same time as it's vital to keep the leads sounding coherent, otherwise you - as a producer - are losing control over the sounds.
Plus sidechain is a form of compression...
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koniord
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:54
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no man, you're right
i couldn't possibly be talking about side-chaining three leads, though it's possible....but what the hell would three leads be doing in the same area at the same time...that's crazy |
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:57
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some things are really quite impossible....can you imagine three guitarists playing solo with distortion in the same area...even if you manage to make it sound right it would freak everyone out...i think |
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:58
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On 2005-12-13 23:54, koniord wrote:
no man, you're right
i couldn't possibly be talking about side-chaining three leads, though it's possible....but what the hell would three leads be doing in the same are...that's crazy
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hehe
Crazy... but possible! (and done before)
My trick for that would be precise control over stereo imaging and precise e.q.ing... then three sounds can be happening in different places in the aural field at the same time, one sound central, the other sound slightly wider.. the other sound very wide... the two widened sounds should be e.q.d with eachother so they don't clash.
And the central and less wide sound should be e.q.d with eachother, that way you get minimum chaos...
But then that's a simple way. E.Q.ing RULEZ remember  ... just cut away precisely and you'll get there in the end!
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 13, 2005 23:59
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On 2005-12-13 23:57, koniord wrote:
some things are really quite impossible....can you imagine three guitarists playing solo with distortion in the same area...even if you manage to make it sound right it would freak everyone out...i think
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Linkin Park - Nuff Said
Shit music... all production! 
Plus remember, that 3 guitars with distortioin are practically the same sound...
I presume by "three leads" it's meant to be three different leads going on at the same time...
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koniord
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 00:02
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YES!
i'm there, but that's for a little while and because it serves a certain purpose...not?
everytrhing can be done and some of that i;ve done too and most i've heard but i think that is not what S-Cube is asking.
Generally you do not want such a thing in the flow of a track, do you?
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 00:06
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three guitarists with different guitars and gear is not the same sound. I think that example was good, anyway, don't bother about that, i;m just using it to explain what i want...which is that you have to built on the track and not through in all you ideas at once.....i do not want a track to make some particular (obvious) sence but i want to be able to follow it. |
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 00:08
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yes that may be true... it could spoil the flow.
But lets say that you have one 2 octaved arpeggiod lead flowing... one pad sweeping over it, and one FM gated lead HP filtering rhythmically beneath that...
It can be done without spoiling the flow, but just takes abit of work to be done
For example, in the track I'm working on at the moment...
I have a section with a gated pad
a formantesque melodic lead...
A quite-complex pitch bend effect
a low pad beneath that
and full percussion...
And i think it's sounding pretty good... without spoiling the flow
(feel free to PM me if you want a listen to that section and see for yourself )
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 00:17
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i was only answering to the question of three leads (which i passumed were similar to each other) playing at the same time in the same freq area.
i'd like to listen too, pm you some time but some friends just came in... see you |
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 00:19
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 02:00
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I think NikC got what i meant! Thanks for the tips man..
Is the Waves S1 imager any good for widening the stereo image?
Do you guys also use stereo imaging on the percussion?
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NikC
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Posted : Dec 14, 2005 02:51
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On 2005-12-14 02:00, S-Cube wrote:
I think NikC got what i meant! Thanks for the tips man..
Is the Waves S1 imager any good for widening the stereo image?
Do you guys also use stereo imaging on the percussion?
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S1 is my absolute favourit... literally couldn't live without it!
I definitely use stereo imaging on the percussion... It's very important in my opinion to get sounds to sit exactly where I want them to.
Whether that be percussion or any other sound!
Good luck with it S-Cube! 
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