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EQ & Comp. with VB-1

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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:45
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On 2007-06-07 07:11, mk47 wrote:
release / decay on vb-1 .. how ?



Nope.

Aside from whatever effects you put on it, VB1 is all about varied note length and velocity. It doesn't have a standard ADSR interface so you just gotta make due.


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mk47
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:49
i know , but D-Alien was talking about release and decay settings so i wondered .. maby if u load it in highlife u can get envelopes going on vb 1 ?
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 09:11
I don't think there is a release knob on it, but if you look at the automation options there is a release you can choose. So I just control the release from an automation control.           ~Airyck~
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 18:57
..sure it has release and decay sliders, on logic audio I can load VB1 in 2 modes, standart GUI mode and a "controls" mode. when in controls mode the interface is gone and is substituted just by sliders, If I see at the noraml interface i see just 4 knobs. But if I switch to "CONTROL" mode I see 2 more knobs. release and decay ehehe and VOILA!!!! U should look how to put this vst on a standart GUI and not its own... those knobs are hidden.. hehehehehehe
I spent more than a year to figure this out hohohohoh and I've tried only on Logic Audio. Dont know how it works on other sequencers...
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 19:05
here is a picture of the VB1 in EDITOR mode, u see.. decay and release...
if u cannot get it by your sequencer well, adjust it by te automation as the other user sugested. the release must be quate short still not too short, but u'll perceive it once u can get control over it.

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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 19:31
Interesting... I'm curious if those are actually decay and release in the technical sense or one of the VB's goofy "bass guitar" settings with a different label slapped on it.
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 19:49
i dont care if technically they are correct. its not an fm sintesis. but 100% i can asure u that the release is release. if i put 1/96 or 1/32 or 1/16 note or whatever, but u pull the slider to the end u receive almost an infinite tone... is this a correct release? ehehehe

what is important that this so small vst is very capricious, just a tiny move and the sound is gone... but if u get it u get a monstruos harmonic bass, as build up of 4 diferent patches, warm subs, punchy mids, and very pleasant harmonic highs, also if u put your vb1 with a good compressor the notes from c1 to c2 sounds almost equal in loudness!!! u have a whole octave to play with without bothering if some tone will sound stronger due to the harmonic frequency changes.

...but this is just a way i've learned... dont take it 4 granted, if it doesent work for u, leave it
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 20:10
this bassline:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/b4zy8o

is made using the aboce method, its vb1, with isotope trash and rcomp

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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 21:31
I couldn't understand why people liked the vb-1 until I found these "hidden" controls.           ~Airyck~
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Oxidelic

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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 21:45
same as mi mate, same as me... I found this one year later

and now I'm happy ehehehehe,

sure VB1 alone is not good, it needs a godd distortion over it, but its so harmonic!!!

it sounds as playing chords on a bass guitar. I used to play bass guitar and yes. This is IT!


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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 09:59
The release function of Vb 1 works in FL Studio aswell, but only as automation, not as stand alone knob.

it is set by default on 98 %, but decreasing the value makes the notes longer.

For Fl users: just click on the Vb 1 Plugin Options and than choose Browse Parameters.

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Posted : Jun 8, 2007 11:49
nice one!
tho completly useles realese option for me..
the tight 0 realese sounds the best with vb1 for me...

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mk47
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Posted : Jun 12, 2007 08:30
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On 2007-06-08 11:49, tsabeat wrote:

also , unless using very melodic bass i wouldnt compress it at all




hey , could you explain why ?

thnx
mk47
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Posted : Jun 14, 2007 10:19
*bump*

someone explain that please : )

thnx
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Posted : Jun 14, 2007 13:56

mk47:

Well if you have a melodic bass (i.e notes on many different keys) compression helps 'even out' the sound...otherwise some notes might stick out like a sore thumb depending on eq etc.

If your bass is in a single key this isn't necessary and because compression destroys some of the dynamics of the sound it may not be desirable.
Personally though I still think some light compression gives a bit of extra pump and does not ruin the sound, but each one to their own
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