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EQ & Comp. with VB-1
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Towards Omega
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 14:18
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A lot of people swear by this and I think I'll start using it as well. Yesterday I was playing about with it and got a great sound but I have no idea what I done EQ/Compressor wise. I am playing with it now but it sounds to "plucky" and the bottom end sounds nasty. |
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 14:56
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I tried for a year to get a good sound out of VB1. It wasn't until I sorted out my room acoustics I could hear what I was doing. It isn't the most original sound but it does its job.
Your EQ is going to be different for the note you pick, but I wrote a track in E and these are some basic settings for the note E1. Adjust to taste.
Try rolling off about 3.5k,
large cut at 1000hz, 500hz
small cut at 125hz, 250hz, 2000hz |
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AvS
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 16:18
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And how about the settings on the VB-1 Tomos? Makes no sense to have an eq preset without knowing the initial sound.
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 4, 2007 16:43
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Well, this is down to taste I suppose. But you have a point.
I just pushed the plectrum and fret (is that the right word) to the furthest left and put Damper at 15 and Shape at 0. |
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mk47
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 07:16
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synthi bass preset ..
and sorry dont mean to hijack this but could someone point me in the direction of a good distortion to put on a vb-1 bass ? .. i cant get my head around the isotope trash .. is there something like quadrafuzz for fl ? i tried the blood overdrive distortion and got decent results but still sounds like shit when i a/b compare to other released stuff .. |
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diskonekt
Fat Data
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 10:22
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shachar
Basic
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 11:53
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Try rolling off about 3.5k,
large cut at 1000hz, 500hz
small cut at 125hz, 250hz, 2000hz
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Why do you cut so much? nothing will left from the original sound! |
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 12:29
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Sounds okay to me, you think thats too much? These are fairly narrow notches, not wide chunks. By large, I mean about -6dB |
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Scala
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 13:26
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Y R U working with VB try something else ..
like: chronox or scorpion , Tau or TRILOGY ..
VB is dead and is dead man ..
i"M using a sampl that i download and run it in sampler
i saw others that use real MOOG to make bass ..
think about it..]
cheers |
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 14:11
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There are plenty of bass options. Who cares what you use, one element of your track doesn't make it.
Saying VB-1 is dead is ridiculous, its just a sound.
You could say the same thing about 303 acid squeaks, we've had 20 years of that! |
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Jun 5, 2007 18:42
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On 2007-06-05 13:26, Scala wrote:
VB is dead and is dead man ..
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Is it double-dead?  Seriously, why post such crap.. if you can get a great sound out of it then its never dead... if it does the job for you, use it!
Anyway, I was going to say don't forget to play around with the note lengths and velocities, it makes a big difference on the VB.
Good luck!
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shachar
Basic
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 12:17
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i usually boost and not cut..
maybe below 35 hz and above 10k -12k.
if nececery than i cut just a bit in the low mid area around 400hz - 600 hz.
freq`s like 125 or 250 i even boost somtime..depands on the bass note.
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kajola
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 13:22
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i record than the vb-1 to an audio file and cut it in each note. than you can change the volume and fade exactly.
also try to change the phase of the bassline.. sometimes its good!!
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D-Alien
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Posted : Jun 6, 2007 20:09
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I found something very important for the vb1. its the longitude of your notes. make them as short as posible. like 1/96 and than play (but very carefully) with the release time of the vb. if u put normal 1/16 long notes, the sound is not convincing. But if u use very short notes (but on the sixteens place), put the "sinthy bass" preset, and play with the release (put it like 0,970 aprox) and the decay, than u put the isotope trash over it and use it like this: just the "Trash" as a mulitband compresor, u have to add one more band so that u have 4 in total, the first band and the last band u have to eliminate all from it, lower every knob! (it will be like a low-high cut for you bass) than on the second and third band put the "DRVE - SQUEALER" and play with the knobs (overdrive, mix, caracter) until u get good fat bass. Put your notes on the 1st octave, C1 - C2, additionally u can turn on the pre or the post EQ of Trash and make small changes on the EQ, be carefull, just small changes.  in the end u can put a sidechain compressor so that the kik and bass fit better and send them both to a RCOMP bus where u can still fatten a bit the sound.
If u make this configuration u'll notive that VB is not dead, but more alive than ever
sure there are a dozen more of trickies so that the bass is fatter and stronger but this is for some othe rpost.
happy tweaking
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mk47
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Posted : Jun 7, 2007 07:11
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release / decay on vb-1 .. how ?
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