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jorge
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 05:24:13
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is it better to eq after compress or compress after eq |
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abraham316
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 08:29
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Albertos
Albertos
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 09:13
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if you are creating track try to create it without any compression...or other mastering tools...
You can to eq it , but check your frequense gain...no more than +- 3 db...!!!
Little mastering tread----- Eq---Compression---Maximizing!!! |
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 10:38
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 13:00
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Partzi Floch
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Posted : Jul 16, 2008 13:08
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2 (slightly different things), when compressed before EQ you have a chance of the compressor being triggered by (unwatned) strong freq. in the audio (usually it's the lows - that can create a "pumping effect" that you might want and might not). When EQ b4 compressing you have better control over the frequencies and when the signal gets to the compressor it's more controllable.
Also, don't worry about 3dB spectrum and such. If you find yourself dancing in front of your screen, you've probably done it right  |
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Albertos
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Posted : Jul 17, 2008 08:20
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Ithink that comression its have to be last thing that we have to use on our virtual technologies,if the sytnhs is jumping on your track you have to fix it internal...without slowing down and change the structure of your lead or pad...or something else...
But if you really want to use compression , you will need to know exactly what you want to compress...or it will be some freq...that you want to compress or it will be some unique harmony of fx's and leads...
But isay DONT USE COMPRESSION try to get your sound fresh and clean without using some tools for changing some parametters...the track can get more quallity and cleanes...without comression...
Work only with eq...EQ its very VERY powerfull thing in music production...if you will understand it ...you will see that comression its not so important as you think (of course it important),but for more deeper engeeneerian production!!! And remember You have to be an Artist , not Recording label...!!! |
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Kitnam
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Posted : Jul 17, 2008 08:52
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dj looper, i see it from a different point.
before i use an eq on an individual instrument, especially to make elements cleaner and give them more presence, i try a little compression which does a very good job very often. if that does not match, i go for an eq (cut down frequences). and if that does not work then i push some frequences. for sure the productions gots too flat with too much comp, but the same goes for eqing (phasing!) like everything in music you do too much or too less. but eq/comp in one "channelstrip" is one of the most common mixing technics on single elements because people found out that having this combination works well.
what you talk about is maybe bus-compression? even bus-compression has its advantages and even master-bus compression is a common way to produce through from the scratch.
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Greententacle
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Posted : Jul 17, 2008 09:13
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Most sounds we work with are synthetic, and i like to choose those that already sound good or tweak it till it fits.This way you can save a lot of comp and eq,what doesn´t me i don´t need it at all but just to give it the last grind! |
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Kitnam
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Posted : Jul 17, 2008 20:50
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yes. greentacle i agree offcourse, and i think its also an proved & successfull way of working, in the case of what sound you want to reach.
especially compression is able to beeing used in a very "musicaly" or "toning" way and can work as a fundamental element of a production. for example listen thoose saw/sine-wave-synthies they use in electro-house production or tunes which live from heavy compression like george delkos "deftoner" (a must tune for every progressive trance dj in my opinion - check it out).
anyway every needs to find his own technic, which gives him the best results. |
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 07:23
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"42"
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 15:19
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Lately I learned that EQ should mostly come first. That is because when yo apply compression you signify the sound, and if you do that without EQing you will signify sounds you DON'T wanna hear at all...
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Deranger
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 21:25
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On 2008-08-14 15:19, "42" wrote:
Lately I learned that EQ should mostly come first. That is because when yo apply compression you signify the sound, and if you do that without EQing you will signify sounds you DON'T wanna hear at all...
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exactly! |
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cr1st0
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 21:40
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Eq first, because if you use compressor first you will compress frequency's that you will not use.
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vigge
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Posted : Aug 14, 2008 23:48
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It really depends what effect you want to achieve. If you are uncertain just leave a insert slot free before the compressor and try both, hear the difference. Mostly i like to cut stuff with filters before compression and then shape the sound after the compressor, otherwise i feel the compression kind of flattens out what you tried to do with the eq, but again sometimes thats what you want! |
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