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Epic vs Psy

tasty_yakir
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 08:00
GIVE ME SOME PSYCHEDELIC TO MY BRAIN !
NOTHING MORE !

AND EPIC IS NITZHONOT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT

HAHA
Zombi
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 10:31
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On 2003-10-05 01:57, kaz wrote:
You can imagine the one word I was too politically correct to add here - it starts with 'H'.




u wanted to say - House Muzak ?? hehehe i knew u die about it....

kaz, shame is that your prety good brain work only in stereotypes mood, thats is damn shame on you..
          Believe your soul !
Goblim
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 11:34
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On 2003-10-05 00:14, DiMiTry wrote:
Not this kind of melodies, please. Maybe something less cheesy, yes.



Ok I understand... can you give some examples of tracks this epic so I know what you're talking about?           Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 14:13
You can't really use the term Epic as a description of music or a music style.
Epic come from the Greek word "Epikos" and is related to literature not music.

Epic is used to descibe a certain poetry in both short stories and novels. It's the oposite of Drama.

You should rather use words like "timeless" or "atmospheric" ect.
Yuli
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 17:48
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kaz, shame is that your prety good brain work only in stereotypes mood, thats is damn shame on you..



Zombi me dear, let me say that the same works on you too

And EPOS is Illiada or Odissea, those really long and massive books with a lot of battles with the eternal clash between the good and the evil.

If you take this into music then EPIC means really long and massive pieces that leave you saying wow from the bottom of your lungs when it ends since u r left breathless.

Delta - The Thing
X-Dream - Rain ( the long original verse of 12 minutes or so )
Etnica - Trip Tonite, Starship 101
Chemical Brothers - track 6 on Surrender CD ( got it nicked but remember well what it does )
Your humble servant feat. DJ Nadi - Golden Slumbers
Van Der Graaf Generator - Childlike Faith in a Childhoods End
Genesis - Foxtrot, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Battle of the Epping Forest and everything actually till 1976
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir, Rain Song
King Crimson - Epitaph

And the list is very very long           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
traveller
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 17:56
shpongle - around the world in tea daze
jörg on mushroom - the messenger
infected mushroom - symphonatic

these are epic..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
Zombi
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 20:18
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On 2003-10-05 17:48, Yuli wrote:

Zombi me dear, let me say that the same works on you too





but im working on it.. and im getting better i think           Believe your soul !
DiMiTry
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 21:08
no

those are not epic

Beethoven is epic.

traveller
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Posted : Oct 5, 2003 23:29
well

moonlight sonata sure is one epic piece of art.. but IMSO (in my strong opinion) so are the ones that i listed..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
technoid


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Posted : Oct 6, 2003 03:02
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On 2003-10-04 19:59, kaz wrote:
Take that type of music, replace the bassline with something spacey, take a bit off the feedback on all the effects, a bit less distortion, and voila - you've got pure clubtrance. The fact that people don't seem to notice or care is a damn shame. That vibe is a plague to the full-on scene just like the house grooves are to the progressive one. It's a damn shame people don't listen to something that tries to surprise them... about 14 hours ago I was at a set with this type of music. It was really horrid seeing the E'd up clubbers take over the dancefloor.

For me this is the ibiza-sash-bullshit of the psytrance scene.




Couldn't have summed it up better myself mate. We need more acid and less ecstasy on todays dancefloors.

Epic to me means something long, that takes you on a journey, building subtly from fairly minimal to a total wall of sound. There's an Infected Mushroom track, the name of which escapes me right now, possibly 'Devil', but its about 10 minutes long and on each break the kick drum gets a little bit deeper and more noises get layered over the others and the effect is amazing. That to me is epic. Not some crappy hands in the air 5 minute breakdown with a drum roll that goes on for about 3 of those 5 minutes (ok I'm exaggerating, but you get what I mean).

Anyway, that's my interpretation. Not saying it's right or anything. I am right about this being a partially drug related thing though. Club-trance is pill-head music through and through. And it sucks. There's some great house music out there though. Anyone been to Smokescreen parties in the UK, or DIY years ago?

And lets not get into an argument about semantics, eh?           "One nation under a groove".
acidchloe


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Posted : Oct 6, 2003 12:23
dimitri......if this is not an end to an epic, then what is it.....becoz....we are at the end of the of a movement which is propelling us towards
the begining of a new time.....where music and art will be liberated in a syhchronization of cosmic mace...
you...by the way....are you greek?
if you are .... its....me
tasty_yakir
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Posted : Oct 6, 2003 18:47
WOW

YOU MAKE ELEPHANT FROM FLY !

EPIC VS PSY !??~?!/?313???????

IT SHOULD BE TOGETHER !
DiMiTry
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Posted : Oct 6, 2003 23:12
I am not so sure it should be together, though it does come together a bit too often for my taste. The thread got a bit off-track because of all the semantics. The "Epic" psytrance in the terms that Yuli and Traveller used is not what I meant at all.

Seems that not everyone is familiar with the term 'epic trance' which applies to super-clubby ibiza type trance anthems. Maybe that's what I should call it - Anthem psy. Maybe this topic should be renamed.

That's what bugs me, and that's what seems to infect the psy scene with its cheap melodies, and the way it panders to our base emotional need for grandeur. It's sad, I think.

acidchloe - no, not greek, sorry.
time traveller
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 03:02
When i read the title of this topic i was assuming that you were talkin about producers like tiesto corsten , mike aka push , above n beyond .. as in my opinion they prodcue what many call epic trance ...by tryin to tell some some it aint is very hard !!!!!
though to be honest it more known as euro trance which the majority can be very cringe worthy ..

indeed , as where i stay thats what mainly pople like or hard trance but how do u define hard trance ....seriously please ? if i play psy trance tracks at 150 bpm is that no hard trance or hard pyschi ??
do i care nope ...all that matters is the sound quality .... as for the original argument

the word trance is beinf used to describe tracks which imo should never been given the tag !
Mike A
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 03:30
It's because the psytrance audience borrows terms from the "other" trance, the club trance.
Progressive is Paul Oakenfold or Vibrasphere?
Epic, Shpongle or Rank 1?

The definitions lose the meaning..
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