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Electro long sustained note..sidechain??

Brain Hacked
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 19:39
Im trying to mkae that typical electro long saw note, i guess it is sidechained to another audio file i tried a long note sidechained to a kick, hihats etc..so far i had no succes., i need some tips please. Thanks in advance
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 19:55
how does it sound?

try describe it better. Is it that typical effect like used in "Ticon - u make me wanna drink more" ?
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 20:30
yep, quite similar, heres another example...


http://download.yousendit.com/CE1E186967EA514D

Thanks!!!!
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 21:07
To me it sounds like its sidechained to the kick with a fairly high threshold and ratio so that it ducks in level considerably everytime the kick hits, gives that pumping effect..Gonna give it a shot when i get some time..
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 22:00
I messed around for ten minutes & gave up at the end, this is the best i could come up with, guess i'm better off making psytrance!

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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 22:44
woow sound pretty similar to what i want, i tried sidechaining it to the kick but i did something wrong, i drew a 1 bar note maybe that was wrong in the frist place.

A guy told me i could have "ghost kick" i guess a kick that doenst soudn only for ducking signal but that i have no idea


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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 22:51
Ok i can tell you how i did it..I used TC sidechainer, the compressor settings:

Fast attack & release, high threshold, ratio 2:1

Drew a single long note with trilogy, think it was around 2 bars, didn't use a ghost kick put the side chainer directly on the kick but maybe that's a good idea..

Hope this helps!
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 23:04
thanks man, it works fine, just need more work i guess
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Posted : Apr 26, 2007 23:41
Just as a last favor for this thread, im trying to use sidekick sidechainer (tc has a bug and waves..wroks ok but i want less consuming cpu plug in) i dont get how it works....
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 01:09
Do you mean this one?

http://www.twistedlemon.nl/

Never tried it, downloading now will get back to you if i manage to get it to work..

P.S. Do you have the TC 3.1 bundle? That works fine for me, though you need to turn on key input everytime you restart the project..


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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 01:30
Ok here's how it works..Open two instances of the plugin, one on your kick channel & one on the bass..

Select keying for the kick channel & ducking for the bass channel..

I think its easier if you just look at this pic:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4225/sidekickv3oa2.jpg

This is what it sounds like with sidekick v3 (i used extreme pumping to show you the effect, you can adjust the settings to taste):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/esxxiy

Hope this helps!

Salman
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 07:05
thanks so much man!!!! if theres something i can do for u just le me know, i have some great patches for vanguard and dicovery i made in case ur interested
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Posted : Apr 27, 2007 12:10
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vf5cbi


here is how it sounds in flstudio using peak controller for the sidechain!


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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 02:20
Sounds prettu cool atropa!!!! just for the record... the pad that sounds , has the same sidechain effect? i was wondering if it was done the same way the bass is sidechained.
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Posted : Apr 28, 2007 12:12
yes its the same method but has some minor different settings!


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