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EGO, MIND GAMES, MANIPULATION, etc...

J
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 20, 2010 21:40
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On 2010-09-20 15:41, ocelot wrote:
but im saying it publicly because i think this guy is a fraud and full of shit


Most people are.
Get used to it.
BrainLizzard


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Posted : Sep 20, 2010 22:25


Put panties on, get ready, we smell a panty-pull :

Sweet politics, the cause of all the Worlds problems and the solution to all the Worlds problems. Fire in the hole!!!

"EGO TRIP ALERT!!!! Today is the red serpent, instinct and survival. The serpent travels in waves, belly to earth and even in kundalini, a life force inside of us per yoga.. Breathe, awakened impulses for discernment's could be necessary in order to survive, chocolate covered bacon with coconut.. Continuous circulation of this vitality which offers endurance to move through challenges to fulfill life's purpose.. Lets dance the serpent alive.. Celebrate the energy of life, a spirit of sensuality and sacredness in intimate exchange.. Pride sometimes cause the human spirit to fail.. sex power or obsessive compulsive disorder as in Egodystonic"

Blessed Be or even Namaste, Bom, boOM, Se Ya, Hello or Enlakesh

Butt seriously... What's goan on here?



This page can reflect many things.. overwhelmed, resistant and reactive... A clear sense of personal boundaries and limits.. Clockwork Orange, personal identity or even fear of loss of control or being controlled. By expanding our deepest beliefs about expanding our reality it is possible we change our experiences of life..


wtf ever
          


"If You Always Think What You've Always Thought, You Will Always Feel What You've Always Felt"
Basilisk
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 03:34
English please!
willsanquil
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 04:14
This whole thread sucks.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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consciousness
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 04:42
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On 2010-09-21 03:34, Basilisk wrote:
English please!


+1000

Pavel
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 08:45
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On 2010-09-20 22:25, BrainLizzard wrote:


Put panties on, get ready, we smell a panty-pull :

Sweet politics, the cause of all the Worlds problems and the solution to all the Worlds problems. Fire in the hole!!!

"EGO TRIP ALERT!!!! Today is the red serpent, instinct and survival. The serpent travels in waves, belly to earth and even in kundalini, a life force inside of us per yoga.. Breathe, awakened impulses for discernment's could be necessary in order to survive, chocolate covered bacon with coconut.. Continuous circulation of this vitality which offers endurance to move through challenges to fulfill life's purpose.. Lets dance the serpent alive.. Celebrate the energy of life, a spirit of sensuality and sacredness in intimate exchange.. Pride sometimes cause the human spirit to fail.. sex power or obsessive compulsive disorder as in Egodystonic"

Blessed Be or even Namaste, Bom, boOM, Se Ya, Hello or Enlakesh

Butt seriously... What's goan on here?



This page can reflect many things.. overwhelmed, resistant and reactive... A clear sense of personal boundaries and limits.. Clockwork Orange, personal identity or even fear of loss of control or being controlled. By expanding our deepest beliefs about expanding our reality it is possible we change our experiences of life..


wtf ever








          Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 08:50
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2) EGO
your egos exist to protect you from external danger and organize your otherwise messy emotional self. Ego is a good thing.
Being excessively narcissistic (self absorbed and navel gazing) or being sociopathic may not be such a good thing.





Our ego's exists as as a result of the conditioning we all go through when growing up, things our parents, schools, Rabbis, priests and shankaracharyas,in short society tells us. It is all the information (not experience) we identify with. The ego is precisely what is responsible for the messy emotional states we keep finding ourselves in. Once there is no ego, there is no one that can get hurt, that simple.

It seems to be a big problem here in North America, I was also asked to play for free on events (and I even did a few times... I know...), and with the same stupid argument, "DO IT FOR THE SCENE", I agree with you 100%,there should be some kind of compensation, regardless of the fact if it is Gil or anyone for that matter. Someone that goes out there on a stage and gives a performance deserves something in return. Simply to keep a balance.

Yes, it has also pissed me off plenty times, but not to the point of freaking out.

I for one would find it a shame if you were no longer a part of this forum, I don't give a flying fuck about your cult status, I think you are an interesting individual and that's why

Also I am sorry about your recent loss, you have my heartfelt condolences man.

And after all these years you spent in the scene, (ah there's that arbitrary word again) you should know well that there is always at least 1 Asshole, it simply is Murpy's law and Murphy is always right, ego or no ego...
So hey, pm me if you need to talk!
Take care and I really hope to continue to see you on here !







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Shiranui
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 14:11
The sense of self is what defines sentience and what makes us human. To abandon the sense of self is to become less than human.

I am not a cog in the machine. I am a unique individual who will have none of your crap.

I am shinji ikari and I will not melt into red goop along with the rest of the human race. Kimochi warui.
Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 17:28
^
You can be a unique individual and still not have a head the size of Jupiter. Your sense of yourself does not automatically make you think you're the center of the Universe.
Identity != Egoism
Identity != Egotism
Egoism != Egotism
Let's stay on the same page.

Ikura sushi to you too.
Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 17:43
Actually, the whole strange underlying conflict and the ensuing emotional outbursts aside, Ocelot did bring up some very interesting points – important both in life in general and in “the scene” (IMHO). Manipulation and emotional blackmail is something each one of us deals with nearly every day. I came across an interesting book on “gaslighting” (I think it’s called “Gasslight Effect”). Haven’t read it yet, but it’s exactly about the things Ocelot brought up here. Has anybody here read it yet?

2 Upavas: any employer will want you to work for free. Any one. And any employee will want to be paid $7 million a year for playing Tetris all day long. Those who say otherwise are lying either to you or (more often) to themselves. It’s only through communication between the buyer and the seller that an agreeable wage is determined. If everybody boneheadedly insisted on only what they want, we’d all be sitting idle complaining about evil selfish employers and employees.
Login
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 18:22
Egoism meant love for yourself until Plato came and twisted the concept around to justify his totalitarian utopia.

          "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
Hero #1
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 21:16
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On 2010-09-20 12:29:26, ocelot wrote:

MODERATORS- feel free to delete my account- ive been requesting this for a couple weeks now. please do not remove this posting as i seriously am willing to go the line on this one.







Ocelot man, you need to stop screaming for attention from the rooftop every lunar cycle.

First it was 'stop calling psy dark', then your rant about the overall quality of the music/scene..now your datamining Lizzard's posts...Wonder why the mods don't really delete your account ? Your posts are stupid.
Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 21:58
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On 2010-09-21 18:22, Login wrote:

Egoism meant love for yourself until Plato came and twisted the concept around to justify his totalitarian utopia.



“Chauvinism” originally meant a soldier’s blind loyalty to his superiors, as exemplified by corporal Chauvin’s unwavering loyalty to Napoleon. The term has nothing to do with fascism or male sexism. Yet, it’s used almost exclusively in those two contexts today. The vast majority of people using this term don’t even know that it refers to Nicolas Chauvin. Which is just as well, since he was a fictional character anyway. If we can use this word outside its original 200-year-old definition, I think we can use the word “egoism” outside its original 300 BC meaning too.

Besides, “self-love” and “self-interest” have many meanings – and, consequently, so does “egoism”. I vaguely remember that a French luminary (Rousseau?) wrote at length on the subject of different forms of self-love, although I only read some variant of Cliff’s Notes and not the original essay.

So, how about "gaslighting" then? Anybody?
Maine Coon
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 22:03
Hey, Hero, you're losing your edge. It's been ~30 hours already since Ocelot's outcry. What happened to your 10-minute response time?
rich
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Posted : Sep 21, 2010 22:30
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On 2010-09-21 04:14, willsanquil wrote:
This whole thread sucks.



+1000
But then again, it's good to see some juice occasionally. Homeboy is pissed and tore off his shirt ready to throwdown. Gotta appreciate the honor and personal integrity in that. I think it's cool for the punk rock ethics of it.




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