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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 00:48
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Thank you a million stars for your words Gopenman! I was wondering why my hallucinations had changed and faded as being as pure and wonderful as they where in the first years of eating psychedelic substances. Because it's just as your initial words explain, that in the beginning the *lets call it* spirits shows us, the ego a wonderful playground of lights, colors and hallucinations. But after a period of time taking psychedelic drugs these tivoli worlds dissapear, or at least fades and the thinking higher being in us comes forward ,,destroying" what I see as innocent fun and carneval. I think your right, and this means that as everything, use and abuse is a key. A person shouldn't trip too often, a couple of times a year maybe. For me, now, have a FUN psychedelic trip a couple of times a year, no more if you want to keep your lights as you so nicly put it at a glowing faze. When it comes to the stronger spiritual paths meditation is the answer. But of course, a couple of psychedelic experiences as a starter for a fresh human ego spirit can and will be a nice opener to reveal actual wishes within it self. A key, a door opener. -
Question, you mention chemicals several times in your text. Are you confusing psychedelic substances with chemicals, or am I missing some of your points?
Chemicals are bad mkay, so is abusement, but we all live our own lifepaths and must (must is a strong word, hehe) experience our own failures and sucesses. Who am I to say don't do this, do that.
peace & light
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Freeflow
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 04:25
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FUCK man This Derango - Implosions (technical hitch rmx) is whack... damn 
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 17:59
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Thank U too my dear old friend x-kire-naj  !
U know I love u and care about ur health,u know well and remember some older brainstorming discussions we had before some years on isra about these things,but now the point of view changed a lit bit and looks the phase from a different level,maybe little bit more conciously...
Now I work hard with yaje to repair the burned glow lamps,meditation here works by observing the changes in real time and space and keep memories on the subconscious mind to compare the differences.
The main colours of my vision now, are the colours of the celestial arrow that comes after a rain on the sky,and thats a good sign,because this fade darker vision of the burned lamps starts to repair slowly slowly,as I see the natural colours of my cleaner aura becoming more intense again..
Try to focus on the main colours of ur vision,and see how is now,how was before,and how are gonna look in the future,and then try to find a ballance between the uses,and for last I hope that after 30 think of it more serious..
For me the age plays important role about chemicals,when someone reaches 30 years the braincells that are burned from a chemical substance(acid,xtc,..)are never gonna reborn again,so for me at 31 age I dont even think to taste again lsd,but when ur are in the age of 20 for example and take a chemical that is gonna burn some braincells,the mind have the chance to reproduce some of them(not all),especially as u wrote if the uses have some empty spaces between some months .
sorry If we became a lit bit offtopic,but it is a serious matter of our spiritual and physical health!
OHM NAMO BHAGHAVATE VASHUDEVAYA
@forrza
all blessings for ur spirit man,dont give up,keep it up!
 ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS.. |
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Forza
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Posted : Dec 18, 2007 18:05
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On 2007-12-18 17:59, Gopendragon wrote:
Thank U too my dear old friend x-kire-naj !
U know I love u and care about ur health,u know well and remember some older brainstorming discussions we had before some years on isra about these things,but now the point of view changed a lit bit and looks the phase from a different level,maybe little bit more conciously...
Now I work hard with yaje to repair the burned glow lamps,meditation here works by observing the changes in real time and space and keep memories on the subconscious mind to compare the differences.
The main colours of my vision now, are the colours of the celestial arrow that comes after a rain on the sky,and thats a good sign,because this fade darker vision of the burned lamps starts to repair slowly slowly,as I see the natural colours of my cleaner aura becoming more intense again..
Try to focus on the main colours of ur vision,and see how is now,how was before,and how are gonna look in the future,and then try to find a ballance between the uses,and for last I hope that after 30 think of it more serious..
For me the age plays important role about chemicals,when someone reaches 30 years the braincells that are burned from a chemical substance(acid,xtc,..)are never gonna reborn again,so for me at 31 age I dont even think to taste again lsd,but when ur are in the age of 20 for example and take a chemical that is gonna burn some braincells,the mind have the chance to reproduce some of them(not all),especially as u wrote if the uses have some empty spaces between some months .
sorry If we became a lit bit offtopic,but it is a serious matter of our spiritual and physical health!
OHM NAMO BHAGHAVATE VASHUDEVAYA
@forrza
all blessings for ur spirit man,dont give up,keep it up!
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Thanks for your beautiful posts brother! Blessings and the purest cosmic vibrations of physical, mental and spiritual improvement for your spirit!
It's only natural that most of us, were once deluded into seeking psychedelics, because we didn't know better and had some thirst for spirituality, but once you find meditation, they are just cheap imitations, and cheap imitations that can harm your brain as well
Let's never give up! we have the weapons, the armor and we can always bathe our bodies, minds and souls in the healing light of the christ consciousness!!
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And wherever that perfect peace is present, perfection there will be.
I couldn't see it before, because I had shut down my eyes, of inner perception
So I couldn't feel this healing light
But from now on, from now on!!! I will stare with my whole faith, through the window of the spiritual eye, And I'll bathe my body, my mind and soul, in the healing light of the christ consciousness Paramahansa Yogananda |
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Peace, Love, Light and Harmony |
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Zman
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Posted : Jun 25, 2008 06:29
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On 2007-12-18 17:59, Gopendragon wrote:
OHM NAMO BHAGHAVATE VASHUDEVAYA
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hehehe WHAT. 
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On 2007-12-18 04:25, Freeflow wrote:
FUCK man This Derango - Implosions (technical hitch rmx) is whack... damn
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This track did it for me too. Especially the vibe @ 6:04 |
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jun 29, 2008 05:46
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On 2007-12-18 17:59, Gopendragon wrote:
Thank U too my dear old friend x-kire-naj !
U know I love u and care about ur health,u know well and remember some older brainstorming discussions we had before some years on isra about these things,but now the point of view changed a lit bit and looks the phase from a different level,maybe little bit more conciously...
Now I work hard with yaje to repair the burned glow lamps,meditation here works by observing the changes in real time and space and keep memories on the subconscious mind to compare the differences.
The main colours of my vision now, are the colours of the celestial arrow that comes after a rain on the sky,and thats a good sign,because this fade darker vision of the burned lamps starts to repair slowly slowly,as I see the natural colours of my cleaner aura becoming more intense again..
Try to focus on the main colours of ur vision,and see how is now,how was before,and how are gonna look in the future,and then try to find a ballance between the uses,and for last I hope that after 30 think of it more serious..
For me the age plays important role about chemicals,when someone reaches 30 years the braincells that are burned from a chemical substance(acid,xtc,..)are never gonna reborn again,so for me at 31 age I dont even think to taste again lsd,but when ur are in the age of 20 for example and take a chemical that is gonna burn some braincells,the mind have the chance to reproduce some of them(not all),especially as u wrote if the uses have some empty spaces between some months .
sorry If we became a lit bit offtopic,but it is a serious matter of our spiritual and physical health!
OHM NAMO BHAGHAVATE VASHUDEVAYA
@forrza
all blessings for ur spirit man,dont give up,keep it up!
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Yeah man? and how do you explain Dr.hoffman who died now at a hundred years? a guy who continued to travel in these dimensions, i guy who brought us these dimensions through hi studies...I think i prefer to beleive what he says cause he's been through it for a whole life and till now his experience has never let me down.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 13:54
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On 2008-06-29 05:46, Soul Kontakt wrote:
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On 2007-12-18 17:59, Gopendragon wrote:
Thank U too my dear old friend x-kire-naj !
U know I love u and care about ur health,u know well and remember some older brainstorming discussions we had before some years on isra about these things,but now the point of view changed a lit bit and looks the phase from a different level,maybe little bit more conciously...
Now I work hard with yaje to repair the burned glow lamps,meditation here works by observing the changes in real time and space and keep memories on the subconscious mind to compare the differences.
The main colours of my vision now, are the colours of the celestial arrow that comes after a rain on the sky,and thats a good sign,because this fade darker vision of the burned lamps starts to repair slowly slowly,as I see the natural colours of my cleaner aura becoming more intense again..
Try to focus on the main colours of ur vision,and see how is now,how was before,and how are gonna look in the future,and then try to find a ballance between the uses,and for last I hope that after 30 think of it more serious..
For me the age plays important role about chemicals,when someone reaches 30 years the braincells that are burned from a chemical substance(acid,xtc,..)are never gonna reborn again,so for me at 31 age I dont even think to taste again lsd,but when ur are in the age of 20 for example and take a chemical that is gonna burn some braincells,the mind have the chance to reproduce some of them(not all),especially as u wrote if the uses have some empty spaces between some months .
sorry If we became a lit bit offtopic,but it is a serious matter of our spiritual and physical health!
OHM NAMO BHAGHAVATE VASHUDEVAYA
@forrza
all blessings for ur spirit man,dont give up,keep it up!
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Yeah man? and how do you explain Dr.hoffman who died now at a hundred years? a guy who continued to travel in these dimensions, i guy who brought us these dimensions through hi studies...I think i prefer to beleive what he says cause he's been through it for a whole life and till now his experience has never let me down.
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Dr Hoffman was a doctor,he knew excactly the right dose his body needs,and alot of other important knowledge to use lsd by the safe way,and he had the most pure crystals to use for himself.
Most of trippers think that they eat candiess,they also think that they are
doctors,but they not...and the acid papers people sell,are different from what Dr Hoffman eat..
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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kriz
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 15:01
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@Forza and Copendragon:
You guys look like you found a way to connect with your real selves!
Bravo!!! 
I think you must share you knowledge of herb and spiritual meditation to all!
This is the RIGHT PATH for all who have involved with psychedelics in their life and it is A MUST DO for everyone who wants to evolve ino something better and brighter...
I love your wisdom that i think concludes into two magical phrases:
" You will find that drugs are nothing but cheap imitations, really they can't give you the intensity of meditation."
" It's only natural that most of us, were once deluded into seeking psychedelics, because we didn't know better and had some thirst for spirituality, but once you find meditation, they are just cheap imitations, and cheap imitations that can harm your brain as well
Let's never give up! we have the weapons, the armor and we can always bathe our bodies, minds and souls in the healing light of the christ consciousness!!"
Thank you for giving PURE GOLD to the hands of everyone! 
A lot of RESPECT to you!!!!!!!!!
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Aker
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 18:46
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LSD is a man made substance....it is synthetic like food additives.......do you really think there is a shortcut to enlightenment without consequence?
Someones been reading to much Leary......that guy was a charlatan. |
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Dogon
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 14:58
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LSD..... shortcut..... what..... who......
LSD is a psychedelic... & i like it.... thats all 
We were born naked & grow up to become wicked. |
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Aker
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 15:02
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you like it.........this sounds bad.....like you are addicted |
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Dogon
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 15:07
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nah... not at all addicted... i do maybe 4-5 times a year..... & i like it yes...
We were born naked & grow up to become wicked. |
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Aker
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 15:08
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why do you like it? |
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toogoodforyou
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To those of you who don't know, all acid (lsd-25) is the same. Yes, the same acid used by Mr.Hoffman who lived to the age of 102 years. And how do you verify if its not some other substance?? Just compare your acid experience with various online trip reports and you will know. Secondly, lsd is a non-addictive drug. I believe if used in control it won't harm your mental or physical health.
People who have strong family histories of major psychosis or psychopathology are more vulnerable to get psychosis after using LSD. If a 'normal' person uses it after some sincere research in the right setting there are few chances of any psychosis or any permanent damage.
I have nothing against meditation. I used to practice one 'kriya' myself and i plan to start it again. But, i'm 100% sure meditation does not help you to connect and enjoy the psychedelic music like acid does.
As for people who say the spiritual experience on acid is an illusion or a cheap substitute, can you elaborate why so?? Is it just cause acid is man made?? Most of the things in todays world ARE man made. You can walk from one place to another and you can travel the same distance faster in the car, does it mean that your car journey is an illusion?? Travelling in a car has its own risks right? 
I am discussing all this with an open mind here, so you guys do the same. Haters stay away. Using & not abusing is the key. Everything in moderation. |
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