Ecology and Trance in Israel

On 2005-12-18 21:13, trance-mama wrote:
As you know, if you know, I am a heavy trance addict like most of you.
I love the parties in nature and I allways respcet being brought to an awsom location in a party.
But I can't ignore the fact that I myself, sometimes, leave toilet paper when I need too somplace around the party. now I also go around parties and see old stuff from last time. That hurts...
I feel uncomfortable being part of heavy dirt in those sacred places....
What can be done?
are there orgenizers that clean up that stuff when they leave?

On 2006-01-30 11:17, Shishya wrote:
Hello friends

I have some similar experiences with the issue
of trancepeople being disrespectful of the nature where they party. I really donŽt feel like this is an issue about hysteric attitudes but true concern.In the summer of 2004 when I travelled to India with my girlfriend we found out about a great party in Ladakh and decided to go.
It was set some 10 km. north of the city of Leh and the organisers had rented a bus for the people.

When we arrived at the party we met about 150
foreigners and maybe 30 locals. The party was organised by some Israelis and locals and it lasted until the next afternoon but only with a handful of people staying until the morning.
This place was a beautiful untouched pasture 30 meters from the main water stream that provides 15000 people with fresh water.
Cows graze here and it was very edenic.
A small buddhist stupa overlooked the area and I was told that foreigners rarely come up here.

To my horror I saw that the people had left almost all plastic bottles,bags,trash,cigarette buts,glass and metal cans right there on the sight.
I started collecting trash and it would have taken surely 4 or 5 hours because there were so tiny fragments everywere.
An old herdsman came up with his cows and watched in silence as the locals collected the biggest plastic items and BURNED THEM
right by the stream where the cows graze.as the bus left a huge amount of trash had to be
left behind even though I was seriously thinking about staying for cleaning. But i had no bags,water or equipment or hiking shoes with me so I had to go.
I was thinking about the amount of chemicals that we foreigners were spreading in the Himalayas with our carefree attitude and fullpowerblablabla idealism.
I felt so ashamed that my whole body was aching.
Im sure that a lot of the people either just didŽnt care or thought that the organisers
would pick up everything.
These parties are destroying a lot of pure energies in the mountains. IŽm not saying to stop but just to be more aware of the delicate balance in the ecosystems that we MUST protect.
I love good parties when people are bonding
and creating sustainable tribal culture.It has given me so much but at the same time I feel bad about the consumerist attitudes and rockstar egos that are not about the true Gaia spirit(at least not for me:)
We are all part of a huge living organism and destroying the land is destroying our own physical body.
Respect all life and it will respect you.
Peace