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dynamics question ?
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Cosmic Tandav
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Posted : Jan 25, 2010 13:13:09
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what do you really mean by dynamics ?
for eg ..i ve heard that when u compress bass and kick together ,that some of the dynamics is lost ..
I have also heard that the same can happen when you eq certain sounds ??
but if you were to compress bass and kick togther and it still sounds good but looses dynamics ...will this affect the over all quality or the final mix of the track ??
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Pagan
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Posted : Jan 25, 2010 16:07
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Well its a bit obvious that compressing the kick and the bass will make it loose dynamics.
Just think of how the waveform if its been compressed, that brickwall is what the dynamics looks like, and you can see that there is no range in it.
IMO, the only time you really need compression is to tighten up sounds that changes too much(as in hectic random peaks) or to use the attack/release to compliment another sound(while at the same time tightening it up)
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JohnnyBGood
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Posted : Jan 25, 2010 16:13
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The meaning of dynamics is the difference between volumes and presence of sounds.
By definition, compression cancels some of the dynamics because it makes loud frequencies more quiet. The more you compress - the more dynamics gets lost.
The problem with overcompressing is that the track sounds duller and boring.
The difference in volumes makes the music interesting to the ear.
Compression makes the overall track sound louder, and brings out sounds that 'hide' behind others.
In conclusion: if not overdone, compression is good.
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jan 25, 2010 19:42
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Locrian
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 01:50
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Dynamics, in short terms, is the difference between loud an quiet sounds. It can refer to several diffrent differences in volume however.
Firstly it can refer to differences between a loud and a quiet note. For an example. If you pluck the string of a guitar very lightly or dig in with all your strength.
Secondly it can refer to parts of a song that differ in volume. Quiet verses and loud choruses for an example.
Thirdly it can refer to te sound itself. If you listen to the sound of a handclap or a snare drum it quickly rises in volume then drops very quickly and then falls again. This is called a transient and is actually a very important part in identifying a sound. Without a clear transient a clap or snare won't sound like one.
Compression effects all of these. Lessening the difference in volume, though not necessarily the tone of notes with different velocities. In other words your carefully programmed hihat-pattern or fullon bassline won't sound as moving. Lessening the difference between the loud and quiet parts of your song therby lessening the impact of the loud parts. And killing of the transients and thereby changing the actual sound.
As one may suspect I don't think one should use compressors if one doesn't really need to. However if one thinks it sounds better with a compressor on, then one should of course use them. But be careful so that you actually thinks it sound better. Its easy to be convinced by everyone saying one should use compressors or to be fooled by the increase in loudness and mistake it for sounding better.
I suggest you experiment a bit and come to your own conclusion. Take a track and duplicate it. Add compression to one of them and then set the levels so that they sound equally strong(don't look at the meters it should sound equally strong not actually be equally strong). Then listen to the two tracks, alternating quickly between them and analyze how the sound.
Sometimes people talk about musical dynamics which is not to be confused with the other kind. This usually refers to the relative intesiveness of the music. Going from a soft atmospheric intro to full on crazyness.
Hope this helps. 
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Cosmic Tandav
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 07:10
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hey thanks a lot guys fro the reply ..i got a better understanding on the definition of the term dynamics and transient...
I think wut i m gonna do is even if use a compressor on the kik bass and feels it sounds really good .. maybe i ll bounce it and analyze the wav pattern to see how much of it is 'Brickified' or see if there are enough peaks in it . may be this might help to dtermine wether to use the compressor or not ..
but anywez thanks alot guys ...
and @ Locrian - superbly explained
@ Tommy .. yea the genelecs are still killer and really helps a lot .
i dont have a myspace page as im still working on the sound ( iknow it s been almost 5 years and not put out anythin yet) but i feel it s better to really work on the sound before you put it out to the world ..
but i m gonna send u demos ..and also will work on the remix bro ..take care and be good naughty boy ..
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Psynaesthesian
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 10:33
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dude ... if you ever wanna let go of the genz, do lemme know!!
Cheers!!
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