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PoM
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Posted : Jan 10, 2012 16:43
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with plugins it s the way i compressed my kick but i find dance kicks don t really benefit of just compresion like this. big transients is not pleasant so yit s possible too compress just a little with slow attack,like 2/3/4 db maybe or you have a big nasty transient that make the kick sound thinner the more you compress as the body and bass just get quieter(sidechain filter can work really good to avoid this though)
i haven t used well suited compressor to use fast attack too thats why i suggested experimentating directly with limiting to get the sound dynamic right or compressing in a loop with slower release to not get the nasty transients but still a good control other the envelop and dynamic of the kick.never tried it with plugins so dunno if it will work the same, on the distressor it help to bring out more caractere out of the compressor by driving it much more.
the other avantage if it s well suited to the source sound to squash it wihtout letting much transients to pass throught (usually it is for typical dance /trance music kick), is that let you abble to do it with setting that wont bring much of nasty distortion if any at all, cause at mastering your kick will get some abuse with very agressive settings, ad cliping and/or fastest limiting, if your kick is already well squashed you will get louder cleaner and with good caractere at same time, it s win win situation .
the kick beeing one of the first sound to mix, if the dynamic is right you will have to get it right on the other sound of the mix too, or they may just not sit right in context, not cuting enought. it might sound brutal but all the drums you guys love like thoman penton are shquashed to depth ,even too much for me , that what give them a more pro dynamic, good squash and maybe harmonics with something like inflator in plugins land |
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 10, 2012 17:24
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On 2012-01-10 16:43, PoM wrote:
your kick is already well squashed you will get louder cleaner and with good caractere at same time, it s win win situation .
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but it may crap out very fast once you pass the safe zone |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 11, 2012 13:20
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On 2012-01-10 16:43, PoM wrote:
with plugins it s the way i compressed my kick but i find dance kicks don t really benefit of just compresion like this. big transients is not pleasant so yit s possible too compress just a little with slow attack,like 2/3/4 db maybe or you have a big nasty transient that make the kick sound thinner the more you compress as the body and bass just get quieter(sidechain filter can work really good to avoid this though)
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Its all about how I program my kicks. In order to avoid big nasty transients, I set the pitch envelope to have a nice defined "click", and defined bottom end tone. Its well easy to get nasty transients if you are not careful with how you set the pitch envelope and how high you modulation index is. I generally get the sound of the kick 90% right without any compression and without using any EQ, then its just a matter of dipping the mids slightly (if I have to) and getting a compressor to work in a way where the click of the kick and some of the inital "oomph" gets through the compressor before gain reduction.
But like I said, how I program my kick sound is imperative to not having to use EQ and compression in ways to fix mistakes in kick programming, but use them as little sculpting tools that take away the little rough edges.
Peace out.
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jan 14, 2012 13:46
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right now i'm playing with bazzsism, i must say, what an amazing machine, very dry  |
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Chemica
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Posted : Jan 14, 2012 23:31
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Bassizm is very good. Also microtonic works well even if u load in one of their kicks and start fiddling with parameters. |
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