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Doubts in creating Goa melodies
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Feb 17, 2013 17:36
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On 2013-02-17 05:56, goatrancejp wrote:
There exist a extremelly helpful tools to do that creat melodies becomes easy using the right tools...
i´d like to mention two ways to create that...
Vanguard/Sylenth1
Step 1- like a preset choose a lead in the octaves between (C6 - C7/ G5-G7). choose something that you notice that are related with goa sounds use your ears...
Step2- Turn on the Trancegate tool of vanguard with stereo off....
Step 3- put the mix in the middle of the trancegate, make sure that delay is on! put the delay in the middle or after the middle to the right side...
Step 4- Turn on the arp mode of the vanguard and set the speed time to something between 32/16 can be 32T/32D etc...octaves of the arp choose 2 or 3.
gate of the arp choose 16T and make some experimets changing the value to 32D/16D/etc...
Step 5- in the Amplificator choose PAN to the maximum value drive to almost everything...Ressonance change to the maximum or close of that....try to make some tests with the glide on and off....
Step 6- when the keys sounds psychedelics to you try to write some melodie on the midi and check out how that sounds....
Step 7- try to use some arp presets they fit very well to create goa sounds....
I hope i´ve helped in some way....
the big advice is use your ears, be pacient and spend some good hours in front of the VST´s
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nice, it helped...i only find difficult for some no reason to modulate my own presets on vanguard, im noob on it, but i got more luck on sylenth,albino,i will try this on albino, since it have some good arpeggiator and gate |
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Feb 17, 2013 18:24
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On 2013-02-17 05:56, goatrancejp wrote:
There exist a extremelly helpful tools to do that creat melodies becomes easy using the right tools...
i´d like to mention two ways to create that...
Vanguard/Sylenth1
Step 1- like a preset choose a lead in the octaves between (C6 - C7/ G5-G7). choose something that you notice that are related with goa sounds use your ears...
Step2- Turn on the Trancegate tool of vanguard with stereo off....
Step 3- put the mix in the middle of the trancegate, make sure that delay is on! put the delay in the middle or after the middle to the right side...
Step 4- Turn on the arp mode of the vanguard and set the speed time to something between 32/16 can be 32T/32D etc...octaves of the arp choose 2 or 3.
gate of the arp choose 16T and make some experimets changing the value to 32D/16D/etc...
Step 5- in the Amplificator choose PAN to the maximum value drive to almost everything...Ressonance change to the maximum or close of that....try to make some tests with the glide on and off....
Step 6- when the keys sounds psychedelics to you try to write some melodie on the midi and check out how that sounds....
Step 7- try to use some arp presets they fit very well to create goa sounds....
I hope i´ve helped in some way....
the big advice is use your ears, be pacient and spend some good hours in front of the VST´s
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c6 c7 octave seems to high, i lowered to c4
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goatrancejp
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Posted : Feb 18, 2013 05:16
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Luiz maybe im glady in halping you mate....
i´ve tried to explain pass to pass becoming easily to try to create your melodies....
i dont need to argue with those guys that are talking a lot here....my objetive is help you! so im glady that my advices work well to you.....
and i´m still saying psychedelic in music theory based does not have sense at all.....cause the psychelic signals or nuances are formed for Resonances and FX to make them psychedelic lol.....
you can for sure use some knowledge of music theory in goa of course....but i try to show you the easieast way....a short cut....
i hope i´ve had helped you.... |
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goatrancejp
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Posted : Feb 18, 2013 05:18
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Pow Luiz nao sabia que era brasileiro nao man....kkkkkkkkkkkkk e eu aki me matando pra explicar em ingles uahauhauahua .... |
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Feb 18, 2013 17:13
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On 2013-02-18 05:16, goatrancejp wrote:
Luiz maybe im glady in halping you mate....
i´ve tried to explain pass to pass becoming easily to try to create your melodies....
i dont need to argue with those guys that are talking a lot here....my objetive is help you! so im glady that my advices work well to you.....
and i´m still saying psychedelic in music theory based does not have sense at all.....cause the psychelic signals or nuances are formed for Resonances and FX to make them psychedelic lol.....
you can for sure use some knowledge of music theory in goa of course....but i try to show you the easieast way....a short cut....
i hope i´ve had helped you....
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Pois é irmão eles estão certos, Trance é música, eletrônica, feita por uma interface analógica ou digital, mas é música, todas os canais de instrumento de um track de trance são moldadas em cima dos 12 semitons possivéis, e para haver música precisa haver melodia,para melodia precisa haver concordância em escala e acordes....
é teoria musical...
valeu ae man
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Ancient Alien
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Feb 19, 2013 04:16
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Why dont you try slowing down the BPM of the track, play the melody in at the slower bpm then speed it back up to Goa BPM.
I used to use this method before i figured out basic theory and got a decent midi keyboard, which is a must btw in my opinion.
Mark
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Ancient Alien
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 12:42
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On 2013-02-19 04:16, Soundmagus wrote:
Why dont you try slowing down the BPM of the track, play the melody in at the slower bpm then speed it back up to Goa BPM.
I used to use this method before i figured out basic theory and got a decent midi keyboard, which is a must btw in my opinion.
Mark
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sure
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Feb 20, 2013 13:14
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Why did Simon Postford did his tracks so brilliant??
because he studied music, he tryed, he experimented many concepts and instruments till find its identity.. instead of opening topics on foruns wanting to help on how to emulate others
if you really enjoyed the process of music, you would search the answers for your self...
its really a pity that some people only care about the reach the final result quickly... |
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 09:39
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 12:13
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On 2013-02-20 13:14, Ricciardo wrote:
Why did Simon Postford did his tracks so brilliant??
because he studied music, he tryed, he experimented many concepts and instruments till find its identity.. instead of opening topics on foruns wanting to help on how to emulate others
if you really enjoyed the process of music, you would search the answers for your self...
its really a pity that some people only care about the reach the final result quickly...
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Man! You could realy try and be a nice guy, i'm not saying you are completly wrong, but man, the way you talk... jesus christ and all that stuff.
You really learned all by yourself? Do you really think Postford learned all by himself? With all the artists in that sphere of people... Can't you see them having long nights getting high on music and theorizing and experimenting? That's where artisitic creativity comes most of the time, talking, sharing unselfishly.
If you can do it all by yourself congrats. But people like to share and learn and things like that, i help you today, you help someone tomorrow, that kind stuff.
Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si |
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Soundmagus
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 13:51
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 13:51
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You really learned all by yourself?
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YES, and without internet, and without decent material...
not that i have anything against people learning... but what it piss mes off is when people ask questions about the result and not about how to understand a concept
is like someone who opens a topic asking how much is a sume of 40 + 21, because its lazy to learn maths, instead of search answers on the web
and you have everything on the web, its actualy stupid open topics like this, because even on wikipedia there is a fair explanation of what arpegios and scales are..
so... its completly ridiculous |
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 13:57
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On 2013-02-21 13:51, Ricciardo wrote:
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You really learned all by yourself?
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YES, and without internet, and without decent material...
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congrats then. maybe, just maybe think about putting your words in a less passive agressive way in the future? kindness is the key.
you say one has to be original and should seek new forms? you are right on the one had, but this forum is there to learn also basic recipies and go from there.
nothing wrong about that.
and btw: why are you even in here, a forum where things like this are discussed, if you really think everybody has to reinvent the wheel all by himself?
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
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Cosmo Circle
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Posted : Feb 21, 2013 14:04
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arpeggios are simple repetitive combination of notes...
the diference is mostly on how you place the keys
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I have signed up for it already