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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 15:46:13
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What I would like to do is to be able to play some separate audio clips on a single channel (I'm on ableton 8.2.1), then select a value (say -11db) and have the peak volume of the clips in that channel automatically adjusted so they peak at that level. Does something like this exist?
The instance I'm thinking of is when I have a 1 shot lead played a few times (say every 1 measure) and the volumes are different due to whatever parameters I have set in the synth. Instead of having to adjust each hit one by one, this would get them all to the same peak level automatically.
Any help would be great, thanks!
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monno
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 20:44
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It should be possible to individually gain the clips to match each other in the parameter field iŽd think, but that is tedious and not very fun nor super easy to do on the fly at all. An automated way to go about that i have not found yet while hacking my way through that program. It could maybe be done really cleverly using max4live, but frankly max and me will never get along.
HereŽs hoping somebody else have stumbled upon a way. Otherwise my regular penpals @ ableton support might be able to help you out with a clear answer.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 21:47
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Stating the obvious here, but why not use a compressor with a 1:1.5 or 1:2 ratio and low threshold, followed by a limiter that ensures everything peaks at said value of dB?
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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 22:53
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On 2011-02-22 21:47, disco hooligans wrote:
Stating the obvious here, but why not use a compressor with a 1:1.5 or 1:2 ratio and low threshold, followed by a limiter that ensures everything peaks at said value of dB?
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Because that's exactly what I want to avoid doing  .
Thanks for the reply monno, I'm gonna post it on the ableton forums and see if I get a bite.
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aciduss
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 23:04
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Lol.
why don't you take pencil tool in audition or something like that and lower peaks manually then?
i mean if it is about avoiding the less complicated option you can reinvent the wheel.
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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 23:26
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I was hoping for a more elegant solution that wouldn't effect any of the sounds. I don't like doing tedious things when an alternative can be made. Plus, this is something I come across a lot so I'd rather not do this multiple times per track. http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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aciduss
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Posted : Feb 22, 2011 23:40
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Is Using a compressor something tedious?
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Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 01:45
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I think you want to normalize the RMS level not the peak level... peak level doesn't have much to do with how loud something sounds. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 04:09
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On 2011-02-22 21:47, disco hooligans wrote:
Stating the obvious here, but why not use a compressor with a 1:1.5 or 1:2 ratio and low threshold, followed by a limiter that ensures everything peaks at said value of dB?
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Because that's exactly what I want to avoid doing .
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There are also transparent compressors that are, well, transparent and don't affect the sound, just even things up...but whatever floats your boat.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 04:24
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 05:38
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piko_bianko
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 07:03
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i'd do the obvious of course.
but if you insist, Colin's pointed the way.
slice up each 'hit' and normalise seperately.
in programs similar to cubase you can drag up the gain value of of every single slice very easily.
if FL just hit 'normalise' in every audio clip.
i haven't used ableton much, but i believe it has a similar function.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 12:24
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On 2011-02-23 05:38, Upavas wrote:
@DH, common man, the compressor that does not affect sound costs a shitload of money and even then it still does...
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Logic's Platinum compressor. Its the old "circuit" out of the new ones.
Very gentle ratio, 1:1.5 i.e. for every 1.5 increase in the input stage, there is a 1dB in crease in the output stage and a quite low threshold. There is a substantial gain reduction but its almost like someone is simply pulling down the fader.
I would also put a slightly higher ratio compressor after that with a fast attack, soft knee again and then a limiter that works just a bit to get the -11.5dB peak at every "hit".
Obviously I would also do some volume automation if the program material was very uneven, which case I would do it Colin's way.
If I may add, I have been in Ascension's place many times when I chop up a lead to have a play with the audio regions, that have been heavily modulated, thus varying a lot in level and getting the same peak levels did not actually made them sound even in perceived loudness. It depends a lot on the nature of the sound and modulation.
P.S. The compressors that cost a lot of cash are the ones that sound more musical when pushed hard.
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Ascension
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 13:57
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Thanks for the replies guys, I'll check into what I can do with normalizing in Ableton (all I've seen in this realm thus far is the normalize option when I render audio out).
Part the objective of my workflow is to do things more efficiently and not have to spend time doing manual tweaks, so I'm always looking for shortcuts, especially for something I encounter so often.
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PsiloCybian
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