Doctor Spook and bad/no payment !?!?

On 2007-06-29 10:04, Geomagnetic Records wrote:

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Geomagnetic Releases Contributors who have been settled up so far:

geocd002 - Geospirit - Video Trade for all artists
geocd003 - San Fran Psychos - Video Trade for all artists + All Artists compen$ated
geocd004 - Random - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album broke even
geocd006 - Wellspring - Video Trade for all tracks + All Artists compen$ated
geocd007 - Bodhi - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album broke even
geocd008 - Twisted Reaction - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album broke even
geocd009 - Civilysed Chaos - settled Tsabeat, Electrypnose, Audiopathik, Twisted Reaction, Ape
geocd010 - Highway 420 - settled Clone,Shapestatic,Chromatone,The Loomi,Megadrop
geocd011 - Cybervixen - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album broke even
geocd012 - Trip Controllers - settled w/Twisted, Delysid,Wickedwires,brainhunters,distorted,audiopathik,psyhcoz, Gorumpeya
geocd013 - Grateful Dance - settled w/Virtual Light, Delysid,Wickedwires,audiopathik,psyhcoz, Electrypnose
geocd014 - Digital Samsara - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album didn’t break even yet
geocd015 - Psychic Chakra - settled w/Imix, Virtual Light, Delysid/Wicked Wires/brainhunter, twisted, mechanix, ovnimoon, clone,Tryptmind, shapestatic
geocd016 - Digital Drugs - settled with Electryp,Shapestatic, dai, facehead, primordial ooze, wickedwiresVbrainhunters,Neuromyth, tsabeat, onnomon, arabali, tricosoma, klapso, psychoz, spiral, distorted, airi vs fabiuz, the gorgon.
geocd017 - Atma - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album didn’t break even yet
geocd018 - Stompers Agony - Due this month…
geocd019 - Meta - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album didn’t break even yet
geocd020 - Vectro Electro - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album didn’t break even yet
geocd021 - Imix - Artist Album 50/50 split on profits - Album didn’t break even yet
geocd022 - Helios - Un Released
geocd023 - Desert Dreaming - Un Released
geocd024 - Psychoz - Un Released
geocd025 - Fed X - Un Released
geocd026 - Biomagnetic Therapy - Un Released
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Left to Pay

geocd003 - San Fran Psychos - Quasar is still owed. Total Owed $200
geocd009 - Civilysed Chaos - Energy Loop, Clockstoppers, DarkForce, GuineaPigs Total Owed $1,000
geocd010 - Highway 420 - EVP, Naked Tourist Total Owed $500
geocd012 - Trip Controllers - Abandoned Noise Total Owed $250
geocd013 - Grateful Dance - HyperFrequencies, Khopat, PoisonEngineers, Virgin Suicide Total Owed $800
geocd015 - Psychic Chakra - ChainReaction,Ibojima, AXL, VectroElectro,Bus Total Owed $1,300
geocd016 - Digital Drugs - TotalSickness, Bus, Total Owed $600
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Total Owed to date: $4650

On 2007-07-27 22:49, Geomagnetic Records wrote:
hi Everyone,

Just checking in...

to Energy Loop.... I AM GONNA PAY YOU SOON BRO!! =)

To the rest of the amazing artists that contunue to support geomagnetic, THANKYOU!!! =)

To the patient/generous/wonderful/talented artists who are still out there waiting to get paid or compensated... I am working on it DILIGENTLY.

for all of you waiting for your videos...

here is the plan... I have just finished VMX1-Phantasmagoria dvd with all the videos for SAN FRAN PSYCHOS cd. (10 new videos!!)

also Random's DVD is almost done too. As is Wellspring.

For the next batch of videos/dvds I have made some special arrangements with an animation facility in the USA to provide assitance with my productions. We have many hours of completed animation now and will be editing and finalizing the videos much faster now.

So Geo-artist get your logos, video clips of you at festivals, and other relavent imagery ready and make a RAR archive of it and Sendspace it to me...

and to all reading this... I admit I did over step my self doing so many CDs but mark my words we are not only making good with everyone but also delivering a new era of Visual Music to go with it.

and to Shawnodese... thanks for coming back to the plate with some contstructive words...

much love-

The Doctor

On 2007-08-03 19:42, DJ Buju wrote:
Can someone please inform us if Spook is not reachable via email now as well ??
I really don't understand why artists are not contacting him on the normal channles now as it's established that his communication skills were lacking...

Anyone?
BUju

On 2007-08-01 15:54, DETOX wrote:
With all the respect to the artists and labels and djs involved in this at least funny situation.

How exactly did you expected to get paid from a label that is releasing a new cd every two months with tottally unknown artists?

-Electrypnose, Naked tourist , E.v.p , Ocelot , Penta , is totally unknown to YOU. i listen to some of them over 4 years now...


What did you have in mind?That Dr.Spook is selling thousands of copies from these cds and thats why he is releasing them at this high rate?

-yeah , why the hell would anyone want to keep loosing ? or , specialy when its a business , it only make sense u loose anyhow in first 2-3 years before see the profits.

Let me tell you what i think that has happened here and if you can proove me wrong then i am willing to resign from this forum and hung myself in the bathroom.

-dont hurry to promise

The majority (not to say 99% of them) of the artists featured in these cds wanted badly to release their music so that they could gain some popularity and advance their career,

-not to say 99% , majority its true

i doubt that they even cared if they would ever get payed those 150$ for their tracks

-yes , cared , why not ?? im happy that 150$ is nothing to you (my contracts were 300$ anyhow) but for some of us it is something more then 0.

which if you ask me is a disgrace price for a music creation,you make more money working two days as a waiter in a restaurant so this ammount of money for a track is at least ridiculus and i guess noone really needs this money to survive.

-agree , but some do need this little bit yeah to survive... 300$ is a month food in my country.this is surviving isnt it ???

All that these artists wanted was some exposure,ok so fair deal so far

-baisicly , ignoring the fact some never even sign the deal , guinea pigs for example didnt agree to the terms and asked to not apear on the realese but its out there anyhow!

(even though this kind of releases fuck up the whole market for some people that want to work more profesionally but thats another story)

-i dont see how snoop dog sales got anything to do with this. oh , you ment psy... yeah well , its a free world , and capitalism will make it all right after those small labels loose all they have hommega and phonokol survive great , and seem mp3 is more effecting music industry then some dude wih twisted vision. and unless peaple buy music like dish washing soap , i dont think anyone that came to buy infected will end up with diffrent cd.. not if he didnt like the music anywayz.


but please give your music away for free in the first place and dont sign contracts for ridiculous money that you already know that you probably will never get paid.I mean i doubt that everyone would ever complain for 150$-200$ if this topic wasnt opened in the first place.Accepting to sign such contracts for such money means degrading yourself and your music.

-yap agree 100% ; artist pay attention here! dont make the same mistakes like many !

Dr.Spook knew that many artists out there are willing to do anything to release their music,he took advantage of this situation and since he didnt have to pay anyone anything upfront he started releasing cds like hot cakes fucking up the market,he had nothing to loose actually since even the most fucked up release in our days sells around 400 copies which means something around 2500-3000 euros (euros and not dollars pay attention) for him which means he could cover the production of these cds and if more cds would get sold then maybe he could make a profit and pay also his artists.

Nothing to loose much to gain if you ask me.

-thats super cool i think , sounds like a win-win sitch , but if u promise anything u should keep it no matter what why or how much.

To sum it up whoever calls Dr.Spook a thief for owing him 200$ then he is making fun out of himself to the rest of the forum.Especially when this someone is a tottally unknown artist who just wanted to release his music very badly in the first place without carrying about the money.

-well some realesed more then 1 track and if u know math , adding sums up more then just one of the numbers involved (i got to over 1000$ in the original deal before i wanted it just to end as fast as possible)

As for Dr.Spook well mate try to keep your word even on these funny contracts with those funny terms that you prepared (you will get payed POSSIBLY in 90 days? LOLOLOLOL)

-funny ah , this why advenced payment is a must ! to all young artists if u have something good and u believe in it do not fall for this late payments , no advenced usualy ends up no money.

and either get serious with your label or close it down for the common good.Trust me there are no money to be made anymore with the way you work your label,some years ago some israeli people discovered and followed this formula of releasing young artists for pennies and making money out of them,in our days many people copy the same formula but it just doesnt work out any more.

Oh and please dont start with the "i wanted to promote and help new artists and show their music to their world and what detox says is not true because i believe in good karma and i dont care about money and music is my passion" bullshit because i am going to send nuclear missiles to your house.

You can now lock this topic and get serious all of you.

Its lunch time in sunny Athens.

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-Electrypnose, Naked tourist , E.v.p , Ocelot , Penta , is totally unknown to YOU. i listen to some of them over 4 years now...

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-yeah , why the hell would anyone want to keep loosing ? or , specialy when its a business , it only make sense u loose anyhow in first 2-3 years before see the profits.

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-yes , cared , why not ?? im happy that 150$ is nothing to you (my contracts were 300$ anyhow) but for some of us it is something more then 0.

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-baisicly , ignoring the fact some never even sign the deal , guinea pigs for example didnt agree to the terms and asked to not apear on the realese but its out there anyhow!

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-i dont see how snoop dog sales got anything to do with this. oh , you ment psy... yeah well , its a free world , and capitalism will make it all right after those small labels loose all they have hommega and phonokol survive great , and seem mp3 is more effecting music industry then some dude wih twisted vision. and unless peaple buy music like dish washing soap , i dont think anyone that came to buy infected will end up with diffrent cd.. not if he didnt like the music anywayz.

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
-funny ah , this why advenced payment is a must ! to all young artists if u have something good and u believe in it do not fall for this late payments , no advenced usualy ends up no money.

On 2007-08-05 12:42, tsabeat wrote:
good to know as label u are serious and do believe a good art work worth more then 2 days cleaning bathroom

On 2007-08-05 20:33, MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr wrote:
Good labels is strait bussiness today what u pay u get ,u cant trust a label say i want to pay 200 euro for 1 Gms track when this guys are selling in movies and shows ,todays artists start somewere which is normal ,if they start in small label or big 1 the difrence is all up to there music ,even new artists mabe killer music but have no push ,mabe its the way things work today ,any way i think what artists today need to find is spirit in music so mabe it will come to them and that specail track will be made ,cose all sounds are similar today,
plus there like more artists today than people going to parties.lol. but when u say u must pay 200 or 300 u must treat ure deal or else u lose pionts of life. i belive there very good new artists tring and its a shame to break there path ,to make them lose that touch they have to make something special. and i hope more people will try to make more stuff. now about labels today not worth having 1 to be honest ,mostly to keep promotion ,only big 1s survive cose they have money to spent ,so when u give u make thats how its goes. so im sorry about the artists that have been cheated ,just change chapter and start over new stuff some were else.

On 2007-08-06 16:57, Guinea Pigs wrote:

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The wheel of fate never stops rolling Everyone gets what they deserve in the end.
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