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rich
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 00:09
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Have to agree with that as well. I would much rather be traveling the world surfing than sitting here in this cube hoping the waves will be good this weekend at my local beach break. And damn right I'd be passionate about it  And spending night time hours making music for fun, which someone turns into an additional paycheck for me
disco hooligan did say he shifted gears with his day job to allow him to create music, so he did follow his passion to an extent.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 00:27
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I see your point Beat Agency - it is tough sometimes to feel creative when you get home after work...
and of course this is not always an option, but ideally (well not super ideally, ideally we'd all be immortal cyborgs with synths in our brains that never had to work) you could get a job that isn't very stressful. Pays enough for bills and the odd bit of gear and pleasure, but doesn't stress you out so much that you're drained at the end of each day.
 If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 01:47
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On 2011-02-18 00:27, willsanquil wrote:
I see your point Beat Agency - it is tough sometimes to feel creative when you get home after work...
and of course this is not always an option, but ideally (well not super ideally, ideally we'd all be immortal cyborgs with synths in our brains that never had to work) you could get a job that isn't very stressful. Pays enough for bills and the odd bit of gear and pleasure, but doesn't stress you out so much that you're drained at the end of each day.
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With the current very bad situation in Denmark (yet another Bank went bankrupt a few days ago) and a job market that's close to literally reaching zero new jobs I have no other option than to stick to my current job. And since Denmark is one of, if not the, most expensive countries to live in you can not pay your bills, rent, food (most expensive in Europe now) if you do not hold a full-time job. Rent here is almost 50-60% of your salary. Food is 20-25% and then you got transportation, phone, internet etc.
Believe me. Denmark is NOT the place to be at the moment with one of the worse economic crisis throughout Europe.
So as good as it sound to go part-time it's just not an option here at the moment 
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 02:13
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Yeah, it's pretty bad everywhere it seems...we're pretty lucky in that we can bitch about our jobs that we actually have.
I wasn't necessarily referring to going part time, just getting a job that isn't so stressful. 40 hours a week of anything (well..any kind of work that you're not passionate about) is stressful at some level...it's hard enough for me to do studio work after coming home from my full time job...and my job is completely harmless from a stress perspective. I can't imagine what it would be like if I had to work a job I really hated because there were no other options.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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rich
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 03:07
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I download 99% of my psytrancec for free (Ektoplazm, soundcloud). Else, buy from online stores that hopefully carry it.
I buy commercial music (ie jazz and classical favorites) from used record stores.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 04:21
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On 2011-02-18 00:27, willsanquil wrote:
I see your point Beat Agency - it is tough sometimes to feel creative when you get home after work...
and of course this is not always an option, but ideally (well not super ideally, ideally we'd all be immortal cyborgs with synths in our brains that never had to work) you could get a job that isn't very stressful. Pays enough for bills and the odd bit of gear and pleasure, but doesn't stress you out so much that you're drained at the end of each day.
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With the current very bad situation in Denmark (yet another Bank went bankrupt a few days ago) and a job market that's close to literally reaching zero new jobs I have no other option than to stick to my current job.
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The situation is very bad in Greece as well, because of the crisis but mostly because of our corrupted political system. Live here is expensive, and people loose their jobs left right and center but we see no fruits from this. Our fat politicians are getting fatter and the poor get poorer.
Luckily I am doing well with money as although Greeks complain about not having any money they still drink their tits off (I went from working in my university's network to running a big bar in the center of Athens, free booze, rock music and half naked dancers  ).
In these hard financial times sites like Ektoplazm are even better, especially since there is a lot of good music on there, and its all free!
To answer the question though, we get sent a lot of tunes from artists to play in our DJ sets, so we don't pay for anything 
Peace out.
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dreadieg
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 04:52
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i completely understand the idea of at least making alittle on your music. and i'm in no way tryin to elevate promoters higher than artists or anything (i'm both, and i've put a pretty penny into building a scene where there wasn't one, so i get it)
no what i tend to try to get people to do is to work in some way that lends to the lifestyle our scene sort of promotes.
i'm a vegan chef learning holistic nutrition, herbal healing and sustainable technology.
without my job, nothing would have happened around here, and none of the DJs i bring out would play anywhere other than their bedrooms. so they get paid, and so do i. it's a symbiotic thing.
anyhow, i download alot of music, and i use cracked stuff, mainly cause i simply can't afford it.
15 bucks for a psytrance album is alot for me, it's either i get a CD or i pay for dinner for 2 nights. so beileve me, when i have money, i'll pay all ya'll for the albums that i've gotten from you (some of ya'll are in this very conversation, love your work)
but until then, just be happy that people all over the world are dancing to your tunes. |
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V3NOM
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 06:05
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back to the original topic I buy 100% of my music, sadly some is second hand as it is the only way to find rare records or not to pay outrageous shop prices (psy/goa often sells in store here for $30AU+).
Online shops are good for me as well as Amazon but I just wish music currently being released in the scene would get better and be worth paying for
Work wise I am lucky that my wife has a job that pays reasonably well so that I can go back to study. We also own our own apartment so no rent to pay either but food costs is high now as we just had a lot of farms taken out by a massive cyclone and floods
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moki
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 13:06
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nowadays i pay for about 50 percent of what i listen to and the other 50 percent come from personal presents given to me by the musician ( or you call it promotion or whatever it is). no downloads, absolutely no. honestly, i used to listen to lots of downloaded music in the past. hundreds of cds per month...i was always surrounded by guys who had lots of music and never really thought about buying it, untill i came to isrtrance and though about life once more.
almost all of my cds end up as presents though. it is a passion of mine to give away things like cds and books. no place, i have no big house. and i wanna be able to leave 3000 miles away if i need to, and be able to take only two backs with me. cds and books collections are not my style.
p.s. but i listen a lot to youtube clips though.
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 13:21
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On 2011-02-18 13:06, moki wrote:
nowadays i pay for about 50 percent of what i listen to and the other 50 percent come from personal presents given to me by the musician ( or you call it promotion or whatever it is). no downloads, absolutely no. honestly, i used to listen to lots of downloaded music in the past. hundreds of cds per month...i was always surrounded by guys who had lots of music and never really thought about buying it, untill i came to isrtrance and though about life once more.
almost all of my cds end up as presents though. it is a passion of mine to give away things like cds and books. no place, i have no big house. and i wanna be able to leave 3000 miles away if i need to, and be able to take only two backs with me. cds and books collections are not my style.
p.s. but i listen a lot to youtube clips though.
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I have the same thing about giving away stuff. When I buy an artist's CD at a show, I tend to rip it because I like to use it for mixing w/ Traktor. Then I give the CD away to a loved one.
Right now I'm playing mostly 'downloaded' tracks, which is why I would never feel comfortable playing for money. Many recent great releases are impossible to download, though, so I've opened up a PayPal account to buy those.
The most important thing is, IMHO, that I very actively promote the music, spreading it to tens or hundreds of people who'd never have heard it otherwise. I've had situations before where I'd share some music or a YouTube video I uploaded with someone only to have them listen to it and promptly order the vinyl.
That, and I'm trying to organize some support for the style of music that I love (minimal psytechno/trance/house); I try to book the producers/DJs whose music I play, which I think is a nice payoff 
My FaceBook psychedelic techno page, with news, videos, DJ sets and free releases:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychedelic-Techno/112922275431710 |
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mk47
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 14:21
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same ere .. very rarely for myself nowadays .. but they make great gifts
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Posted : Feb 19, 2011 00:59
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