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bearpill
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 11:13:03
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actually pay for your music ?
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supergroover
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 11:40
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topic 1000 about this... search
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 17:41
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On 2011-02-17 11:13:03, bearpill wrote:
actually pay for your music ?
I'll be honest 90% no 10% yes.
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And the point with this confession is?
I never understood why people who seem to have no problem with their illegal trader habits need to confess in a forum where many artists are members?
We know you trade and we don't like it but we cant fight it. If you want sympathy you wont find it from me 
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aciduss
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 18:59
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No, i pay for events. |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:05
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On 2011-02-17 18:59, aciduss wrote:
No, i pay for events.
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And what about those many artists you do not pay to see in an event?
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dreadieg
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:25
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they can get jobs like the rest of us psychedelic wages slaves  |
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:36
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On 2011-02-17 19:25, dreadieg wrote:
they can get jobs like the rest of us psychedelic wages slaves
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Sure the can and they probably also do have full-time "slave" jobs. But does that mean their music is less important than those you and the organizers see as "more important or talented" and by that up for grabs to anyone who do not feel like paying for their music?
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Jacynth
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:41
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On 2011-02-17 11:13:03, bearpill wrote:
actually pay for your music ?
I'll be honest 90% no 10% yes.
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baba, please use search or expect answer from me.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:50
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 19:56
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On 2011-02-17 19:50, disco hooligans wrote:
I'm probably on my own here, but I like my full time "slave" job. It pays for my musical "freedom". 
Peace out.
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Yes and no.
It pay you to be able to put food on your table, pay your rent and YES dont give a s**t about what labels think you should sound like.
BUT it also gives you very little time to make music compared to if you make music full-time. And who wouldn't like to be able to do it - I know I would love to be able to make music full-time again.
The point is you might have your full musical freedom(if you release for free or are on a label who agree with you) but you (or at least i) are usually so tired after a hard day at work that music is the last thing I want to do when I finally get home from work.
Having to work full-time kill my creativity. But again that's just how it is and food and rent is more important to me at this stage in my life.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 20:16
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I hear ya.
My take on the matter is this.
I would never ever want making and playing psychedelic tunes to be my full time job. Its a very personal thing, my sanity maintenance sort of speak and I am very afraid that I might end up looking at it as a job with stress, deadlines, follow certain trends in music in order to put food on my table, pay the rent and I might end up twisting things in my head and end up hating it, at which point, its game over for me.
I would not mind writing music for pop bands and having that as a full time job, provided I would have 2 days a week to spend on my own music.
I quit my day job which did kill my creativity and and found a job that gets along with my creativity. Money is a bit less than my old job, but I am a lot happier living like this as I get to make music, take the two free days off I need to travel abroad for gigs and most importantly have time, but most importantly, sustain my never ending "thirst" for music making.
I am happy with the time I have available, feel blessed to have the studio I have today and money to order pizza. Call me a capitalistic prick/sucker that settles for less, but it wouldn't make me feel any less lucky to be able to do these things.
I must say, that I understand my life style does not appeal to all people, nor do I consider my self "cooler/hardcore" trance producer for choosing this path. I do not have to sustain a family and I understand people who give their all to be good family (wo)men....which at the end of the day is THE most important thing in life.
Peace out.
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ROTTERDXM
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 22:47
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On 2011-02-17 20:16, disco hooligans wrote:
I hear ya.
My take on the matter is this.
I would never ever want making and playing psychedelic tunes to be my full time job. Its a very personal thing, my sanity maintenance sort of speak and I am very afraid that I might end up looking at it as a job with stress, deadlines, follow certain trends in music in order to put food on my table, pay the rent and I might end up twisting things in my head and end up hating it, at which point, its game over for me.
I would not mind writing music for pop bands and having that as a full time job, provided I would have 2 days a week to spend on my own music.
I quit my day job which did kill my creativity and and found a job that gets along with my creativity. Money is a bit less than my old job, but I am a lot happier living like this as I get to make music, take the two free days off I need to travel abroad for gigs and most importantly have time, but most importantly, sustain my never ending "thirst" for music making.
I am happy with the time I have available, feel blessed to have the studio I have today and money to order pizza. Call me a capitalistic prick/sucker that settles for less, but it wouldn't make me feel any less lucky to be able to do these things.
I must say, that I understand my life style does not appeal to all people, nor do I consider my self "cooler/hardcore" trance producer for choosing this path. I do not have to sustain a family and I understand people who give their all to be good family (wo)men....which at the end of the day is THE most important thing in life.
Peace out.
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I can only say that I agree with this 100%. That's the reason I don't want to be a career DJ/event organizer. "Sanity maintenance" indeed!
I probably wouldn't feel as inspired or comfortable when DJing/organizing/promoting if my livelihood was on the line. So I keep music love FAR away from work life.
My FaceBook psychedelic techno page, with news, videos, DJ sets and free releases:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Psychedelic-Techno/112922275431710 |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 22:55
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yeah, as much as I'd like to do music full time....I'm not nearly talented enough to 'make it' as a full time artist (fuck, if people who have been into making music for decades are having trouble making rent, how can I with only 1 year under my belt expect anything???) , so I'm much happier working full-time so that I have cash to burn on organizing parties and building up a studio
I actually really like that there's no money in psytrance - sure there are downsides, like less artists getting to make music full-time, but it also strips away people who aren't in it for the 'right' reasons. If you throw parties consistently that everyone knows makes no money or barely breaks even, the volunteers and participants in those parties are most likely going strictly for the vibe and the good times.
Once something becomes a job, it changes things.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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rich
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 23:35
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On 2011-02-17 20:16, disco hooligans wrote:
I would never ever want making and playing psychedelic tunes to be my full time job. Its a very personal thing
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Hell yeah. I think the passion and inspiration for creating music (or any art, for that matter) is greater when there's a greater element of choice, than obligation or contract.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 23:58
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Ever heard about such a things as your hobby and passion can also be your job?
I can speak from personal experience as I once made a living from making music and playing gigs (But I did the mistake of talking time of from music and did not follow the old-school producers into the full-on era in order to maintain gigs - read: irony).
Yes there is a big chance you might end up feeling it's a job and even a drag at times (I sure felt it at times). But for me personally if I could choose I would any day trade my full-time job I have now into being able to work with music full-time again. Music is my passion and my life has been since I was 10 years old) and trance is just one of more genres I have worked with the past 34 years. I am not so naive that I believe you can make a living from psytrance. But psytrance is not the only music in the world
I know other artists who as I have to work a full-time job away from the music we love. And most I know are dead tired when they come home from 8 - 10 hours work days (this easily become a vicious circle). Then you got your weekends and holidays and have to start question if you should become a non-social person in your weekends and holidays in order to be able to make the music (if you are lucky enough to be creative exactly in those weekends and holidays).
My point is and this not to bitch or whine - just a truthful statement on how things are in my life - that if I could choose I would love to turn my passion into my job again. At the end of the day isn't the whole idea of this one life we got (no one has proven to me we got more than one) to enjoy it to the max and try to live a happy life doing the things that make you happy (and by that also your surroundings) instead of doing things you would never do if you had the choice?
I know it's unrealistic but at least to me there is no sense in living your life doing things that make you unhappy...Unfortunately there is a factor called money - THE DEVIL HIMSELF
Ok end of rant
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