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Do you use wav or plain softsynth´s as bass?

Conny
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Posted : May 16, 2008 08:28:34
Hi !
I´ve experienced that i get a more clean bass sound when i export softsynth´s as wav and import them again into my musicprogram.
When i only use the bassound from a softsynth
i believe the sound is more muddy, and not as good as wav (maybe because envelopes changes the sound)
All of you what do you think ? which sounds best, pure softsynth or wav as bass ?
Saii
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Posted : May 16, 2008 09:58
when you use a bounced .wav file instead of the synth, everytime a note is triggered it triggers it all with the full attack and everything so yea its defiently better for basses to do that since you want a bassline that is constant throughout the track...your on the right track with this read the mother of all bassline thread and you will understand more about this
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : May 16, 2008 10:32
I keep things in softsynth until I've finished writing the track, so as to retain maximum ease of flexibility in structuring the track.

I bounce before the final mix, mainly to ease CPU use.

If the synth is steady enough, then there is no need to bounce if you don't wish to.           .
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LS.
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Posted : May 16, 2008 12:58
Like Speaka i keep my bass in MIDI till the very end of the track and then i will bounce it to a mono wav and listen carefully to different sections of it and pick out the parts which i feel has the best sounding envelopes and shape and then resequence those best parts to match the MIDI. This is of course if the synth is not so steady and and the envelope moves around a bit...... Most times this is what i do...... Sometimes i just bounce it to Wav and leave it as is...
this all gets done in the arrangement window and not a sampler of anything like that
psycox
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Posted : May 16, 2008 18:24
while rendering some synths increases the quality of the algorithms (rendering mode in vst's). often they oversample the signal so it gets more clearness.

p.s. i like instable envelopes, they bring life in the sound. i cant understand the following workflow:
1. make a sample from bass to get everytime the same sound
2. load a tubeamp-simulation,valve-emulator or tape saturation plugin in the mixer to make the sound more analogish , so every note gets a little bit different touch
vipal
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Posted : May 16, 2008 19:18
yeah if you confuse a subject thats about control of parameters with one thats about taste you dont understand at one point
psycox
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Posted : May 16, 2008 21:12
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On 2008-05-16 19:18, vipal wrote:
yeah if you confuse a subject thats about control of parameters with one thats about taste you dont understand at one point


not which I am misunderstood. i also bounce my tracks, but i try to render loops of 8-16 bars. not only one note or bar. for my ear are little variations of the notes more interesting and less steril.
i know that the analog behavior of envelopes can causes problems when you are in fast bpm's and notes so it can be a must to sample.
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