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do you use expander?

billy ambulance
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Posted : Feb 1, 2005 11:32
do any one here ever use the opposite side of the compreesor?
Kaz
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Posted : Feb 1, 2005 11:36
In psytrance? You've got to be kidding. Most producers would rather cut off one of their... fingers than make a track LESS compressed.

And it's not the exact opposite of a compressor - once you apply a compressor, you have just lost information that cannot be recovered accurately by any other form of plugin - not even an expander.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
natty
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Posted : Feb 1, 2005 12:56
expansion does not necessarily uncompress a mix, depends on how u use it...

with multiband compression, say with tc-finalizer... you can squash a band up with the limiter and the compressor so most of it operates within the -20dB to 0dB range...then if you expanded from say -30dB downwards, this will not affect the majority of the material, especially when its kicking... and it can help clean up noise especially in quiet passages like intros and endings... just be careful to give it soft settings because it can be quite easy to hear an expander operating...
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Posted : Feb 1, 2005 21:58
i thought the use for expanders was with recorded instruments, to make larger the difference between (low db) noise and recorded sound (high db). so that you get better signal-to-noise ratio...           .
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 1, 2005 22:41
I use the hard-knee compander mode of the compressor on my DS2416 soundcard with basslines sometimes; like natty suggested, you can clean up quiet passages (or the tail-ends of notes) with the expander and compress the louder parts. It gives the most amazing punch to basslines if you set it up right.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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br0d
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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 01:30
Yeah, people overuse them. They're called gates.
Downward expander.
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