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do you think this guitar lead is good?

dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 16:03:06
i didn't use guitar till now so i'm not sure if this guitar sound (which isn't real guitar) is good enough. i would like to hear your opinions about it. thanks

https://www.yousendit.com/download/TzY2Qk15d0lTSUJMWEE9PQ
exkor
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 17:56
chichke,
to me it doesn't sound anything like guitar, so I would say you are pretty much safe
All synthesized guitars sound like melting plastic to my ears so I always do guitars myself.

But if you want it to sound like GUITAR you gotta find some better samples. Try cutting notes from some popular songs and putting them into a sampler.           http://soundcloud.com/exkor
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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 00:45
ok. thanks. a friend of mine trying to play this on guitar for me but he might no succeed becasue this 1/16 notes at 145 bpm...
maybe i will try also to layer few synth's guitars from few vst's and than it would sound fatter.
exkor
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 01:05
chichke,

no need to make it so complicated. You can go two ways, one is lower your track by like 30-50 BPM and see if your friend can record it at that speed then bump it all back up to the original BPM. The 2nd way, and I think in this particular track will be better because it's going really fast is record like 2-4 notes from a real guitar and use with a sampler. There must be a sampler VST out there, I use ableton so there is a built in sampler like this on:






if you want you can give a listen to my track called Salomon Said towards the end there is a Persian Setar (not Sitar), I just borrowed this instrument from a friend and recorded single sounds from it with a microphone then I used them with this sampler you see in the video above. Works very good!

good luck chichke
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Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 01:38
exkor - are you assuming he has a midi guitar, or do you suggest in timestrecthing 50bpm to 145bpm? wouldnt that introduce some artifacts?
btw whats the problem in playing in 145bpm? if you are good at playing you will handle that speed haha
exkor
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 01:51
suggesting to go from 50 to 145?? not at all, that would sound like goat squirt!! my friend

what I was saying is if the track is at 145bpm, you can lower the bpm to say 100 or 110 and then record the guitar at 100 or 110 bpm, then safely bumping it up to 145. If the DAW he is using has good algoriths then you would not hear artifitial stuff unless he will play just the guitar for you, then you will hear ohh yea it sound somewhat weird. But in the mix you will never hear it.

About midi guitar, no not at all! you just sample one note and put it into a sampler and then you just use this sampler as a regular midi track. You basically create a midi instrument out of a sample. You can do awesome stuff with this. For example you can buy a sample pack of all Nord lead synths and just use a sampler and you got yourself a AWESOME instrument for fraction of the cost.

I sometime don't put my thoughts out very well, but I mean only good

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dj chichke
Chichke

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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 12:09
thanks exkor! actually i thought about you said already but thanks anyway!
my griend has realy good guitar that connected to kind of effect box (digitech) and it sound realy good. i don't know anything about guitars so i can't tell you which guitar is it. my friend told me that pink floyd, dire starits and more used the same guitar so i believe it's good!
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