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Do you really need a soundcard?
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 10:32:33
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Nectarios
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 10:46
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We need the soundcard we are using as it has two headphone jack outputs for them gigs where we don't have proper monitoring on stage, so we can both listen to what is going on in the mix.
On top of that we get a much better DAC and the output is hot.
Peace out.
 
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willsanquil
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diskonekt
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 11:01
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You also need a soundcard with double output if you are to do a dj set using your laptop.
You don't need one though if you do a press-play live where you just load up a big wav file and then dance your heart out.
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kabbalisticvillage
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psyraal
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 13:09
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On 2011-08-02 11:44, kabbalisticvillage wrote:
Disco Hooligans is 2 ppl?
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Yes they are 2 dudes, i once saw a pic from them, but i can't remember their names.
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zero_the_hero
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 18:14
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Sometimes inboard soundcards have
a lot of trouble with grounding noises in
conjunction with amplification |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 18:42
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On 2011-08-02 13:09, Ethik Mantis wrote:
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On 2011-08-02 11:44, kabbalisticvillage wrote:
Disco Hooligans is 2 ppl?
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Yes they are 2 dudes, i once saw a pic from them, but i can't remember their names.
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Nectarios (on the left also release trance tunes as Martian Arts and techno and breakbeat tunes as Nectarios), Jordan (on the right).
Peace out.
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knocz
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 19:02
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On 2011-08-02 18:14, zero_the_hero wrote:
Sometimes inboard soundcards have
a lot of trouble with grounding noises in
conjunction with amplification
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This is quite true..
But in the case you are lucky and this doesn't happen, a good sound card will give you a better sound definition, multiple inputs and outputs and really low latency.
If you need multiple I/O or if you "play" your tunes with an instrument or controller, then you will need the soundcard's low latency functionality, as it's kinda essential to be expressive, you need the instrument's response in real time in order to really bond with it. If your music is all about the mouse, with no other type of input, then yeah an onboard sound card will do it.
The way I work I play the guitar, use a mic for numerous effects, plus have a whack of midi controllers, so I'll go for nothing less then 4In/4Out.
Also a sound card is a outsourcing component for your computer, as it free's the CPU from some processing. Think of a graphical card, it processes the graphics. A sound card processes the sounds, so the better the sound card, the more effects you can use.
soundcars processes
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Shiranui
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 19:29
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Some mixers have builtin usb sound interfaces |
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 02:00
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Do you realy need a soundcard ?
Yes .. You realy need a soundcard to be sound pro , Or may you want be amateur forever ?
The soundcard you already have in (1- 2 $ from the all price of the new computer) is limited and cant bring your music to top .
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orange
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 02:55
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only your self can bring you into the "pro" side... todays onboard soundcards are more than ok to get the job done in terms of sound quality the biggest issue is the latency.
if you are a good producer that knows his shit you can sound pro even with the limitations of the soundcard.
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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mudpeople
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 03:13
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I dont use 2 outs for my Live mixing, and no one has complained, but it may have something to do with mixing with hardware for a good 5 yrs or so among otehr things.
I still don't/can't afford a good audio interface or card, but, I can't NOT make music, so what would you have me do? Sit here, with the means to create in front of me, without creating? HELLLLL NO.
In my experience, good clean playback isnt really necessary to make good WRITING, but it sure makes the PRODUCING go much faster when you can hear everything clearly and honestly. I know that I would be a lot farther along in my artistic progress if i could afford a good card.
Its not a very good time to be in the geological business, or American. I havent had any work in too long, and trust me when i say Ive tried, even walmart and 7-11... I live in my parents guest room. I formerly was using tehir old pc for music, now i have a real, modern laptop taht they bought for me so I can at least do SOMETHING productive while i sit around.
Its a longer process and more difficult to get an idea of what needs work, but what Ive found works well enoguh is playing my stuff on as many different speakers and headphones as I can to get a more complete idea. I think of it like having scratched up glasses that have only very small areas that i can see clearly throguh. They work for now, til I can afford new ones, and the alternative is to not do anythign that requires clear vision beyond 10cm in front of my face. Which is pretty much everything.
If anyone wants to be my hero fr life they can hook me up with proper playback interaface, but til tehn or til i can afford one myself, Im gonna keep right on working with my glasses blurred. Cuz if I don't I will go completely batshit bonkers.
So, the answer is yes you do need one, but also, you can make do without one, you just have to kinda, write teh track, play it back everywhere, and then let your ears rest for a few weeks and repeat the process.
Sneer all you like Cardinals, but fuck if I WANT to be broke and unemployed. Music is my rock that i hold myself above the raging torrent with, not only electronic or mixed either. There would be bodies at my feet otherwise, and i would know the taste of human flesh, when i regain consciousness in a pool of guts, covered in blood with a kidney in my mouth
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 19:29
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Orange .. Yes and no
Can agree about the latency problems (And the freezing screan here and there , And some vsts or effects may not work as need . And what about the work - Try work 32 b on regular soundcard , You can ?) And that the soundcards of today are much better (So what ?) - No debate about that .. But still this is not enough for the high levels (And you know that) .
If you a good producer SO ..
Then you have to limiting yourself from begining and say : "Hey im a good producer i dont need a soundcard" But you could get
an better results with , So i say why being a jackass (Not you specific - This line of thought) , Work right not curved and
inverse , Then all be come good .
Mudpeople .. I have a good friend (Omri Azran) Aka Intersys and 12 years ago he was releasing his first Cd of an project calld - 'Chimical Planet' , He workt with pentium 2 , Cubase 2 Free of any pro soundcard (Just the shity one you get when buy) , Sure was an different times , And his style those days was TechTrance - There all can be much more dim , Go into distortions , What you want .. (Also you cant compare the old sound from there to the fresh one of today) But when you work on Dark music (You need all be sharp and crystal , live and spacy , Here and near , I dont want to think of "Hey sound where are you .." ? Sorry .. Dont have time for this) or fullon And sure on Prog (When need the clearness and power together hand in hand) Thats can be an 'Unnecessary Problem' . And why ? Thats what make me crazy ? Work right (Its for you not for me) I dont realy care what you doing there so you dont have to be against me (Just listen then do what you want .. In few years youll see and understand im right) .
I dont want to think of if the 'Warner Bros. ' will start using now in they films an 1 $ Soundcard ,
Man .. Peoples will throw an rotten tomatos in the first gala screening . Thats for sure ..
Happy evening .. !
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Nectarios
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 19:36
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Wasn't it Cosma that made music using a shity Soundblaster?
Anyhow, even if you work internally some soundcards do sound better than others, better stereo image is one main aspect I can think of. Besides you never know when you are going to be using your ADCs as well, most probably you will at some point (hardware synths, compressors, FX...etc).
Peace out.
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