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Elad
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 08:10
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Shaqattack
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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 18:19
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playing a dj set in front of a crowd need not always be pre planned...u can try n jes think up a good lineup of the first 30-40 mins and then go on from there according to the groove the dancers are at!
especially if u start playing at around 3 u always cant anticipate the perfect sunrise time can u so its better to leave that part to the way the party is goin n so forth...
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while creating a dj set n recording it at home...WHOA a whole different scenario for me atleast...gotta plan the damm set...coz when u record a set even the SMALLEST flaw will not go un-noticed whereas in a crowd a small flaw well does go un noticed 
i am comparitively a novice but as far as this go these r MY personal observations...
hope some ppl agree with me !
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lovecats
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 05:29
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Deffenitely, Jrob I would agree, an example I thought that might help to make the point I was making earlier is. Its like finding a life partner, if you run around thinking about it all the time trying to work out who is best for you, you seem to have little luck but when you just relax and get on with life it all seems to fall into place. This doesn't meen you aren't thinking about it you are avoiding bad choices and following up on good ones learning all the time, correcting bad habits improoving on good ones ect. you can see the differerence , i guess it's the difference between wanting to be a dj and being a dj.
Flow with the dancer i like that I've always wondered why some people seem to have their eyes fixed to the controls when if they looked at the dance floor it would give them a pretty good indication of how the tracks where mixing. Personaly I prefer a dj that mixes with the crowd than a perfect seamless experience. I love to be thrown about a bit slammed from one beat to another gives me achance to show off how connected I am to the beat. All dj's ect should serve an appenticeship on the dance floor before being alowed to play out I think, when they can dance with the their eyes shut then can take the stage. seriously it does seem like some people choose to dj becasue they are to self consious to dance, can't handle the lose of control to the music so decide to take control of it instead. Not healthy I think I don't want control freaks in control I wont stop dancing but it will be a stand off old western style for your whole set. earthdance earthdance earthdance |
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DJ Megan
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 12:17
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hmmm.....
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DJ Megan
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Posted : Sep 16, 2005 12:18
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Sounds like lovecats' getting a little preachy.
Listen, there are no rules, only guidlines. If you plan your set well, and practice, your live show will be seamless, if you don't, people will know it. Good luck. |
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oboulys
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 15:08
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i like you lovecats.
I think a major problem with planning is the size of the party. Im no pro dj, but i dj some for my friends frome time to time and get the feeling that the bigger the party is, the more the temptation to plan a set arise. When 10-100ish people are dancing to your music, or rather, paying attention to what you are doing as that is your current purpose at the current time-instant, the disc-jockey-slave:) you can afford to be creative. the more people directing their attention to you, the bigger the ego grows (not in any mean way people, that is just how it works apparently(if we consider the ego a fluxating being in charge of your concentrated conscious energy) ) and the more the ego wishes to please, not fail to do so as that would decrease its potential to grow, so to afford to be impulsive and just put on whatever you feel like at the moment creates a certain ammount of risk, as the people might react with "what the fuck is THAT?" in a mix, and this is where your presence becomes apparent to the people, during the WOWs and the what the fuck was THATs. When there are few people, the ego boosts are not so steep, but neither are the de-egoer`s (in lack of a better word), so one can afford to play around. The dj superstar might not want to afford this, so then planning a set is a fine way to make shure people (and thus, the ego) are satisfied. This is not a bad thing, all comes down to the ego in the end (if we talk about this psychologically, which i do not know as i have lost my thread completely).
All i am saying, i think, is this: you dont want to fuck up a nice party, and the bigger the party, the lesser the lust to fuck it up. It all becomes serious. Like a city. You have your role. Best not stray too much from it. At a smaller party its like a village or something. Smaller picture. Lesser energy. so ones functionallity can flux more as the energyshift will not be so drastic, and neither the impact on one`s ego.
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oboulys
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Posted : Sep 17, 2005 15:19
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oh yeah, i was going to say: superb djs differ in here because the know how to work and communicate with a crowd. communication, mm, important in a village aswell as a city, but to a lesser extent because of the many different feelings involved, and so one has to lay on some nice rules that the majority might feel comfortable with, eh, so my metaphor is a success. Hurrah.
Anyway, the superb dj can communicate 2-ways. sHe speaks and waits for the response, as the very good dj will plan hir set and preach the law (within the law that is "play some nice trance please". lost it again. |
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lovecats
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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 02:03
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thankyou oboulys, I get what your sayying. I am only just starting to think about doing these sorts of things I been perfectly happy being a dancer, I am know in an area bigger enough to get some party's going and with a nice place to do it, and it seems the only way to do it is to play my self. I understand what you say about the ego, thats why I reckon that if they spent a bit more time on the dance floor instead of working on becoming superstar dj's(not that I am talking about superstar dj just people with the image inmind) then they would have the flow of energy a bit more free fromthe ego. Then when they get before a 10000 person crowd they would be better prepared to let it flow through them and back to the crowd. When you dance up on side of the dance floor and throughtthe middle and backup the other side you learn to distance your self from your ego and how you react to peoples looks. I've learn through dancingto be able to look at the whole dance floor as one person and to be able to hold them all in my gaze while still being able to give an individual smile back to somebody. know think about being able to do that whilst being able to control the music at the same time. |
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DJ Megan
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Posted : Sep 19, 2005 13:47
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Lovecats and Oboulys, you guys should forget about psytrance, and start and ashram. And buy the way, performing without ego does not exist.
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lovecats
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 08:45
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you can speak for your self not any body else Megan sure an ego is going to be increased from performing but you can disolve it I am sure, do you think great musicians managed to create great music though their egos or by raising above them. |
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DJ Megan
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 12:57
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On 2005-09-20 08:45, lovecats wrote:
an ego is going to be increased from performing |
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You got it right on the money honey. 
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