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Do you have an actual religious belief? - Just BOX it.
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Nioreh
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Posted : Mar 18, 2009 11:31
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I don't believe in god, thus I have a belief, because I believe god doesn't exist. There is no such thing as "lack of belief" in my book  And besides, atheists usually believe in other things like science or magic. I've never met anyone who doesn't believe in anything, even tho that would be quiet interesting since you would have to denounce your own existence and... well everything.
But I guess I would have to go with B hehe.
Personally I believe in nature itself as a higher, unconscious power and there are so many signs out there to prove it.. like the perpetual circulations of nature which all living things are bound to follow. Circulations within which we construct our own to improve our own existence. It makes sense that all of these circulations should be part of an even bigger circle of life.
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 18, 2009 14:00
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On 2009-03-16 17:50, Kaz wrote:
I myself am not a religious person, yet defend the right to hold religion with great fervor. Freedom of religion is as important as freedom of speech, both are a part of something greater, that I dub freedom of belief - which exists both inwards and outwards. People have a right to be and express themselves, and even if one does not understand the way they do it, that does not mean you must lower it. Once you do that, you open the door for others to do so to you. Once you do it for a group of people, then don't be surprised when others fling the little bits of dirt about your people in your face.
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What's your take on this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7949173.stm
They're just practicing their freedom?
Or how about the pope telling Africans that condoms cause AIDS?
Good stuff, yeah? "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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Pavel
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Posted : Mar 18, 2009 17:23
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I'm with Kaz there. I despise secular fanatism as much as I hate religious fanatism.
I believe in live and let live.
Religion whatever you, the enlightened ones, think of it have been an enormous influence for good and for bad (Ok, mostly for bad) but it exists and if you strive for world peace (like the good hippies you are) you have to live with it, rather than try to exterminate it.
Ok so God doesn't exist but please don't ruin your neighbour's dinner, he had a bad day and just wants to rest.
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x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 18, 2009 17:35
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Kaz
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Posted : Mar 19, 2009 10:44
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On 2009-03-16 17:50, Kaz wrote:
I myself am not a religious person, yet defend the right to hold religion with great fervor. Freedom of religion is as important as freedom of speech, both are a part of something greater, that I dub freedom of belief - which exists both inwards and outwards. People have a right to be and express themselves, and even if one does not understand the way they do it, that does not mean you must lower it. Once you do that, you open the door for others to do so to you. Once you do it for a group of people, then don't be surprised when others fling the little bits of dirt about your people in your face.
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What's your take on this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7949173.stm
They're just practicing their freedom?
Or how about the pope telling Africans that condoms cause AIDS?
Good stuff, yeah?
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Hitler took Nietzsche and said he was the moral lighthouse for his ideology. Is Nietzsche at fault for the Nazis' actions?
Showing the abuses of a set of beliefs is very easy. Is it that much harder to accept that most people holding that belief are better than the worst case? http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222 |
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x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 19, 2009 14:30
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Forza
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Posted : Mar 25, 2009 21:01
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I'm a beginner yogi I strive with the best of my efforts to reach unity with spirit.
I try to follow the path that my guru said is the easiest.
If you are able to love each living being unconditionally you'll know God.
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V3NOM
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Posted : Mar 26, 2009 03:05
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well I find it hard enough trying to know myself let alone some god 
Not taking the piss, and each to their own, but I long become aware in myself that my life is about my own journey, and sharing it with my soul mate.
Am quite happy in the knowledge that anything important about the "next life" will happen in the "next life".
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budbeans
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Posted : Mar 27, 2009 18:02
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budbeans
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Posted : Mar 27, 2009 18:04
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On 2009-03-17 16:32, traveller wrote:
I'd call atheism lack of belief.
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belief: A Christian believes in Jesus.
lack of belief: A Christian doesn't believe in Shiva.
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OK, and lets took me for example, Im a Cristian and believe in Shiva so what is that?
Too much of belief?
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meaby you are A BIT CONFUSED
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labyrinth
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Posted : Mar 27, 2009 20:00
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On 2009-03-17 16:32, traveller wrote:
I'd call atheism lack of belief.
Example:
belief: A Christian believes in Jesus.
lack of belief: A Christian doesn't believe in Shiva.
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OK, and lets took me for example, Im a Cristian and believe in Shiva so what is that?
Too much of belief?
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meaby you are A BIT CONFUSED
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"there are as many paths as there are seekers"
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V3NOM
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Posted : Mar 30, 2009 08:11
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I actually have alway doubted that this so called "divine" god would be so lame-o that it needs to make an entire universe to fight and worship over it's just for his ego 
Maybe this world or galaxy or universe or whatever was created in it's spare time as a hobby, like a fish bowl, and it has forgotten about creating us and now we are left to our own devices and in another trillion years it will remember creating this and look back and go, thank goodness I never got involvled in that mess!
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segment 7
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 15:54
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On 2009-03-30 08:11, Buddha Monkey wrote:
I actually have alway doubted that this so called "divine" god would be so lame-o that it needs to make an entire universe to fight and worship over it's just for his ego
Maybe this world or galaxy or universe or whatever was created in it's spare time as a hobby, like a fish bowl, and it has forgotten about creating us and now we are left to our own devices and in another trillion years it will remember creating this and look back and go, thank goodness I never got involvled in that mess!
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haha, i can agree with that for sure. especially the first part, there's no way an all powerful divine god would allow us to murder his creations for not believing in him. the story is flawed.
Projection makes perception. The world is what you gave it, nothing more than that. It is a witness to your state of mind, the outside picture of an inward condition. As a man thinketh, so does he perceive- Anonymous
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Nioreh
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 16:29
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Well, you're making a lot of assumptions hehe, maybe god is evil and sadistic
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x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 31, 2009 16:36
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