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Posted : Feb 28, 2009 14:18:44
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Are you, a psychedelic adventurer an actual Religious believer, be it Christianity or Muslim.
Isn't it against your psychedelic belief to box ,,God/it"? Christianity is a limited box created for control.
God can never be strapped down to a word.  Besides, they all lead to the same ultimate energy, which is Everything.
Discuss 
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 1, 2009 16:32
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i made real expiriences with some of that big world religions.Practical ones.Without their codex they would be even more similiar as they are anyways.I myself believe in good and love.
I even see every life as god.me god as u god - to my perspective.Nowadays i know for myself im not a religious person but a spiritual.
Meditation is the highest source for me,and also most undisciplined but nevertheless a regular process regarding it after a few years.
Im feelin most good with it after my expiriences ,so nowadays I regard it as "my religion/belief".Apart from real love between spirits.
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Dogon
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Posted : Mar 3, 2009 22:08
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No.
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 11:47
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good person is good bad is bad
ill be a prick now and tell that christian orthodox are fools ..
i dont want anyone to fear me or to merchandise my death will hells and paradises, i dont give a fuck about after death really
psychedelic adventurer all the way, searching for truth and not eat the bullshit from greedy priests and faggot terrorists..
none of them talks about energy
like you said Spiitoon, they point at the sky and say "God" ..
morons..
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shahar
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 12:39
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On 2009-03-04 11:47, gutter wrote:
morons..
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Calling people morons for their faith is not nice, not smart and partronizing.
Some humbleness when we talk about things we do not really know anything about and are just a matter of belief won't hurt us.
As for the topic. I'm not a psychedelic adventurer nor a member of any religion. I just enjoy the universe and my time in it, try to learn from it and all that is around me (including different religions and ways of life), and try to do good.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 14:01
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it was not referred to the believer it was referred to the priests who play that game of savior and play with hopes, cause i really dislike church and their money-wash business and anyway they are bad people imho. church=bad things happening..for hundreds of years now.. if its too offending please erase my post.
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 4, 2009 18:37
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In heaven a beer volcano and a stripper factory await. Hell is kind of similar, except that the beer is stale, and the strippers have STDs.
RAmen
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V3NOM
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Posted : Mar 15, 2009 12:09
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 at the top question, seeing as this scene based itself in the early days around the Hindu religion.
And the Jewish people are some of the most strict about their beliefs.
The whole "psychedelic" anti-f#ckin-anti thing is a joke!
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Nioreh
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 13:52
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I don't get it, being a "psychedelic adventurer" doesn't necessarily mean you're against christianity. The christian faith includes several psychedelic elements.
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Kaz
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 17:50
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On 2009-02-28 14:18:44, Spiitoon Psyton wrote:
Are you, a psychedelic adventurer an actual Religious believer, be it Christianity or Muslim.
Isn't it against your psychedelic belief to box ,,God/it"? Christianity is a limited box created for control.
God can never be strapped down to a word. Besides, they all lead to the same ultimate energy, which is Everything.
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You're saying that everyone who believes in an existing religion has a closed mind. I say that this view is very narrow and limited.
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On 2009-03-01 16:32, TimeTraveller wrote:
i made real expiriences with some of that big world religions.Practical ones.Without their codex they would be even more similiar as they are anyways.I myself believe in good and love.
I even see every life as god.me god as u god - to my perspective.Nowadays i know for myself im not a religious person but a spiritual.
Meditation is the highest source for me,and also most undisciplined but nevertheless a regular process regarding it after a few years.
Im feelin most good with it after my expiriences ,so nowadays I regard it as "my religion/belief".Apart from real love between spirits.
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Good for you. Has nothing to do with the question posed here.
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On 2009-03-15 12:09, Buddha Monkey wrote:
at the top question, seeing as this scene based itself in the early days around the Hindu religion.
And the Jewish people are some of the most strict about their beliefs.
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Agreed, except for the Jewish people being strict on their beliefs. Sure, the extreme orthodox types are, but for the most part, Jews are very, VERY secular. All religions have extremists that are very strict. Just like those crazy eastern-voodoo-monks that meditate 12 hours a day and live without electricity or running water and claim to know the world better than anyone else. They're a minority, that's all. It's a shame because that single comment taints all the truth in your post with a shade of ignorance.
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On 2009-03-04 11:47, gutter wrote:
good person is good bad is bad
ill be a prick now and tell that christian orthodox are fools ..
i dont want anyone to fear me or to merchandise my death will hells and paradises, i dont give a fuck about after death really
psychedelic adventurer all the way, searching for truth and not eat the bullshit from greedy priests and faggot terrorists..
none of them talks about energy
like you said Spiitoon, they point at the sky and say "God" ..
morons..
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The sheer arrogance of claiming to know better than such a large group of people is astounding. I can find many "orthodox christians" that have given this world more than you can imagine, and history is full of scientists, philosophers, artists and other great contributors to society that fall into that category. Religion does not necessarily make one good, evil, or even something specific - just as one person can say "psytrance is just a subgenre of a subgenre of a subgenre" and others say "it's not just a subgenre, it's the greatest thing ever", it's really just a matter of perspective. Terrorists, thieves, rapists, murderers, and other such criminals exist in all religions, and most of them try and justify themselves as good people by subverting morals, history, religion, facts, culture and the entire world to their cause. They are a small minority of ANY group.
They use the same ignorance you have shown to believe themselves to be on the right.
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I myself am not a religious person, yet defend the right to hold religion with great fervor. Freedom of religion is as important as freedom of speech, both are a part of something greater, that I dub freedom of belief - which exists both inwards and outwards. People have a right to be and express themselves, and even if one does not understand the way they do it, that does not mean you must lower it. Once you do that, you open the door for others to do so to you. Once you do it for a group of people, then don't be surprised when others fling the little bits of dirt about your people in your face.
Like it or not, no person exists outside of all groups, no one is truly alone. Respect other groups, because that is all you can do in order to make sure mutual respect among all people will exist sometime in the future.
... Sorry for going all Gandhi there. But I believe in this very strongly. http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222 |
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Mar 16, 2009 23:56
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they point at the sky and say "God" ..
morons..
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wow! those are some big boy words there my friend.
Im interested as to why so many atheist are lurking around the spiritual section disclaiming their beliefs so adamantly, it seems you guys have taken on the role of converters of recent, isn't this becoming what you hate about religions?
what happened to being truely open minded?
promoting an agenda is promoting an agenda regardless of what it is, there is always a simple person behind all plans and schemes, believe it or not an actual person made the 'zeitgeist' movie too.
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Nioreh
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Posted : Mar 17, 2009 15:18
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On 2009-03-16 23:56, kameleonpangea36 wrote:
wow! those are some big boy words there my friend.
Im interested as to why so many atheist are lurking around the spiritual section disclaiming their beliefs so adamantly, it seems you guys have taken on the role of converters of recent, isn't this becoming what you hate about religions?
what happened to being truely open minded?
promoting an agenda is promoting an agenda regardless of what it is, there is always a simple person behind all plans and schemes, believe it or not an actual person made the 'zeitgeist' movie too.
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I agree - fundamentalists, fanatics and converters is what I hate about religion and I'd never allow myself to become like them. And yes atheism is also a belief.
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 17, 2009 16:32
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On 2009-03-17 15:18, Nioreh wrote:
And yes atheism is also a belief.
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All non pantheists are atheists. I'd call atheism lack of belief.
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belief: A Christian believes in Jesus.
lack of belief: A Christian doesn't believe in Shiva.
If atheism was a belief then a Christian would believe in the non-existence of Shiva.
Which one is it?
A:
A Christian doesn't believe in Shiva.
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A Christian believes in the non-existence of Shiva?
I'd say A. If you say B then I suppose you can call atheism a belief. "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Mar 17, 2009 19:18
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I believe in the God of love [Christian Orthodox] and this is truly psychedelic for me...
Try to feel love or show love in our days and you will find out how open minded this is... and also uncontrollable for the system which wants us to believe only in ourselves.
Jesus Christ is the greatest rebel that walked the earth!
His teachings is the biggest rebellion ever known!
I am not talking about the modern church or the modern heralds , they for sure are part of the system and they are damned by the teachings of Jesus TWICE than anyone else...
Love saves!
That's all for me...
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 18, 2009 10:21
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@ Kaz - I dont get you.Really not lol- but good for you.
I dont mean your personal writings.
take it eazy with the quantons and scientifics.
I said I made my expirience and what Im believin in man.Diskuss or silence is better than bullshit.
Extra again - are you a psycedelic adventurer..Do you have an actual religious belief? - I think you can read.
save energy for reasons.
Dont know who you are.But that was pointless. https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden |
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