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do you experience any 'focus' problem or is it just me?
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piXan
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Posted : Jan 10, 2011 20:40
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jekvan
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Posted : Jan 11, 2011 06:07
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On 2011-01-10 20:40, piXan wrote:
ive decide to drop ritalin and take on yoga and ayurveda for my attention deficit disorder ,..
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Speaking strictly on that matter,those two are like drinking coffee and then valerian ,bad idea.
ritalin is a miracle drug (this is what actually brought me to deal with music,instead of just dreaming about doing it),but it has a lot of give and takes...I personally haven't liked any of its "takes" (in my book,it made me a working horse,but devoured my soul in return).
Many artists were ADD guys,and they dealt with it without Ritalin.My way of dealing with it is just keeping and electronic journal,making a tight schedule,and convincing yourself this is the holliest thing on earth,and I cannot simply not do what the journal says.
Write everything,everything you need to do down,be more tidy then bank clerk.Keep daily journal,keep reminder journal,keep password journal.There is actually an excellent program called C-Reminder.Make it the holiest of the books and punish yourself for not keeping your schedule when you make one.
Do Yoga.I personally do something that called "autogenic training",not sure if it helps,worth of trying.
Do sports.If you are a lazy bastard,spin poi agressively.
There are tons of books written on procrastination,focus and whatnot (most of them for college folks).Ritalin is an easy way out,and when you will start feeling the side effects,you will see its beating your inner monster with your own will power is the way.Not chemicals (I was taking concerta to help me study in my crazy university,and fukk it made me all kinds of tired,unfriendly,paranoid,non eating robotic calculator...Made me a new ulcer and sleeping disorders,and generally serious and grungy attitude,and I ain't the serious folk at all) |
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Plasmorh
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Posted : Jan 12, 2011 23:48
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Amen Tech music!!
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aje
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 16:37
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I seem to have the oppositite problem of the 3-4 minute track issue everybody else has on here. My tracks are always very long, I always come out around 11-12 minutes at least, so I was very surprised about to hear about everyone else struggling with the exact opposite.
Anyways, the technique I use to get at my long tracks goes like that, maybe it helps the "short-trackers". Someone else has already described something similar above:
First I create at least 5 or 6 elements/ loops of a track that sound good together based on the direction i want to go in (right now im in the process of inventing the genre "Goa-Deep House"). But I don`t perfect the loops, its just to get a general feeling of the song and get going with the track.
Then I lay out a basic arrangement. Usually during this process i add another few layers that come to my mind during the process of arrangement, and I do some basic varations of my loops, like transpositions when its needed and such. After I`m done with all this I take a look at the transport bar and realize I´m at 12 or 13 minutes. Ouch! Then I cut down as much as I can and end up around 9 or 10 minutes sometimes, or I just leave it that long, because generally speaking I love long tracks that take time to evolve and tell a story.
Then, I tweak all the layers to perfection, and whenever I can, I record all automation live in one take over the whole song for a certain element (303 type sounds are obviously perfect for this). Not only is this a lot of fun, it makes me feel like im playing live in my studio, but it also gives a cool organic feel to the tracks.
And then, last but not least, I add all the transition effects, samples, and whatever else is needed. Working this way I find I`m never stuck in loopitis except maybe at the very first stage of creating the loops, and it is a very playful "on-the-fly" process with a big emphasis on fun and quick creativity.
Then again, I just started producing music, maybe one you get to the "advanced" stage things become more painful, but as of now the ideas are just flowing out of me and a track can never be long enough 
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 01:19
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i feel the same mate....
got a thousand intros that kick ass then nothing
try working with someone else.....often an objective point of view is all thats needed
in fact COSMOSIS has a good theory on this |
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psylevation
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Posted : Jan 18, 2011 22:55
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On 2006-10-26 19:20, Kitnam wrote:
diskothek, its not you only. everyone i know who is producing including myself knows 200% what you mean. this is a generell problem while making music and it needs to be pointed out and discussed for sure.
it is not only one of the most difficult points to get beyond, in my experience i have seen enough people to give up at exactly this point which is resulting in hanging around in the studio for years with 1000 unfinished trax of 3-4 minutes (the magical line) but without any clear result!
it is also the point where your mental skills and discipline is getting very important no matter how talented you are, how good your ideas are, or how big your technical skills are. it this point this all doesnt counts anymore! inspiring moments and beauty visions doesnt help there.
i posted this a hundred times in this forum, because in my point of view it is massive important.
the only way to finish the track is finishing the track
it doesnt matter if the track is boring, stupid, sounding crap, etc. if you are disciplined enough to make 7 minutes rolling your are far far beyond many many bedroom-producers out there, no matter how the quality is. trust me! many releases of today proof my words.
if you finish your projects you will automaticly learn very important things about arrangement, building and the way of your producing which will make every next project easier and easier and your quality better and better. it is so important man to have a focused discipline on getting results, forget all about the music theories, technical discussions, how do i make this and that, its all secondary.
edit: ok this is all a bit theoritical how does this look in practice.
music doesnt comes from inspiration. if you think that, then you ar living in dreams. dont get me wrong, inspiration and vision is very important but it makes only 10% of your music. music means by reality: hard work.
this means that if your flow in the studio gets damaged, you need to make 10 steps forward and 9 steps backward. try and error, try and error. sometimes i sit the whole day there and it all sounds crap and after 5 hours i get one element which is ok. sometimes i delete days of work, but the trick is that you dont give up and try another 100 elements and ideas. but not closing the arrangement, and start a new project. this is the easiest way, which leads to the land of hanging around for nothing.
in every production it can happen that suddenly you pick up someting and the sun rises again. it can happen after 3 or 4 days and then it flows again. and every new idea is a killer. if you lost the flow you have to chase it again, dont wait for it to come automaticly. its just discipline to survice such difficult moments.
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I remember this post from back when it was originally posted and this still one of my favorite posts I've ever seen on this site.
edit: oh yeah, Hi again everybody! Long time no see  ~Airyck~
~Unoccupied Mind ~
Psyowa! |
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Ascension
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Posted : Jan 18, 2011 23:50
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