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do you experience any 'focus' problem or is it just me?
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diskOtek
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 00:10
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hello!
i ve got this serious-i guess-problem!
i start a project and at a point cant focus on it -as a result i can barely get a finished track
do you experience this same situation?
it gets on my nerves,i sit in front of the pc and just do nothing or drink a beer and listen again and again what i ve already done plus various other irrelevant stuff!
is there a way i can regain my attention to the project?
or is it a matter of character and needs more effort to stay focused?
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 00:21
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i have exactly the same problem man.maybe what it needs is another person ,or working on 3-4 tracks and swaping from one to other when you re stucked(even better when those traxx are diferent genre  )
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z1P^
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 00:34
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ritalin 'D
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 00:54
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i have same problem too......it really sucks, but i think its most because i can't get to creative before my CPU reaches max.
go get pissed' at a nice party (drunk  ) and let your brain get some inspiration from listening to some nice loud music  I would 
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Saf
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 01:56
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I have the same problem. I make some of a track and then eventually I will need to sleep. Then I have a lot of trouble getting back into it.
It's as though I must start and finish everything in one long sitting in order to get anything done.
It is not just like that for music with me, but with almost everything. I am struggling to get over it.
Eating Rytalin or Dexadrine and staying awake for 5 days would probably help, but it would probably also make me insane so that idea is out.
Anyway I'm kind of getting over it slowly, by just refusing to start a new project. I just held out for almost 2 weeks on one project, but I just gave up and started a new one yesterday  |
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z1P^
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 14:09
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jejej of course it happens to everyone!! its called inspiration and you cant control it ... well, there are mediums, substances, etc... but sometimes it comes and sometimes it goes away, just like that, like a difficult lady... dont get pissed!
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Scala
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 14:19
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start smaoking ganja ..eh eh..
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NeuroGlitch
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 14:24
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Count me in. The only thing that inspires me to finish a song is a deadline, otherwise i just sit around and listen to the same shit over, and over, and over again. Had a live act a while ago and had to make the entire set in a week and a half before the party, from start to finish.
Some Rytalin would have been very, very useful
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z1P^
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 14:41
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i dont seem to get whats about rytalin,
it must be completely adictive right ?
but they give it to kids at school? dont they start taking them to make music or go partying ?
sorry, but its no so offtopic
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diskOtek
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 16:13
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thanks for replies! :]
actually i m not talking about inspiration..lemme clear it up!
i know WHAT to do and HOW but i ve got no mind to sit down and get it done!
that makes me feel comfortable and say 'i ll finish it,yea,tomorrow is a day too'
see?its weird..
and like Saf says i have it in almost everything!
whats that rytalin all about?
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Kitnam
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 19:20
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diskothek, its not you only. everyone i know who is producing including myself knows 200% what you mean. this is a generell problem while making music and it needs to be pointed out and discussed for sure.
it is not only one of the most difficult points to get beyond, in my experience i have seen enough people to give up at exactly this point which is resulting in hanging around in the studio for years with 1000 unfinished trax of 3-4 minutes (the magical line) but without any clear result!
it is also the point where your mental skills and discipline is getting very important no matter how talented you are, how good your ideas are, or how big your technical skills are. it this point this all doesnt counts anymore! inspiring moments and beauty visions doesnt help there.
i posted this a hundred times in this forum, because in my point of view it is massive important.
the only way to finish the track is finishing the track
it doesnt matter if the track is boring, stupid, sounding crap, etc. if you are disciplined enough to make 7 minutes rolling your are far far beyond many many bedroom-producers out there, no matter how the quality is. trust me! many releases of today proof my words.
if you finish your projects you will automaticly learn very important things about arrangement, building and the way of your producing which will make every next project easier and easier and your quality better and better. it is so important man to have a focused discipline on getting results, forget all about the music theories, technical discussions, how do i make this and that, its all secondary.
edit: ok this is all a bit theoritical how does this look in practice.
music doesnt comes from inspiration. if you think that, then you ar living in dreams. dont get me wrong, inspiration and vision is very important but it makes only 10% of your music. music means by reality: hard work.
this means that if your flow in the studio gets damaged, you need to make 10 steps forward and 9 steps backward. try and error, try and error. sometimes i sit the whole day there and it all sounds crap and after 5 hours i get one element which is ok. sometimes i delete days of work, but the trick is that you dont give up and try another 100 elements and ideas. but not closing the arrangement, and start a new project. this is the easiest way, which leads to the land of hanging around for nothing.
in every production it can happen that suddenly you pick up someting and the sun rises again. it can happen after 3 or 4 days and then it flows again. and every new idea is a killer. if you lost the flow you have to chase it again, dont wait for it to come automaticly. its just discipline to survice such difficult moments.
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 20:45
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I've found it helpful to decide to work on/fix one small portion of the song. Then, I'll walk away, I'll go do something else, like put the dishes away, or clean the living or something.
I find that doing something else for awhile makes me realize how much I want to continue working on the music. Plus, it gives my body a rest from sitting in front of the computer (as I do it for 8 hours a day at work, then come home & do it for a few hours more).
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z1P^
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 22:26
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you need discipline to chase inspiration.
but the way i see it...
dont spend weeks trying 100 different leads for that last build up you have, because you loose inspiration to create something new, with that energy/inspiration u have that day, u may finish a new track.
each day i wake up with different energies, cauz we are alive and affected by everything around us, you can notice that in the music that comes out, so everyday you keep stuck in that track u cant finish, the more far away you go from the original vibe.
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Jeto
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Posted : Oct 26, 2006 22:33
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On 2006-10-26 20:45, Dharma Lab wrote:
I've found it helpful to decide to work on/fix one small portion of the song. Then, I'll walk away, I'll go do something else, like put the dishes away, or clean the living or something.
I find that doing something else for awhile makes me realize how much I want to continue working on the music. Plus, it gives my body a rest from sitting in front of the computer (as I do it for 8 hours a day at work, then come home & do it for a few hours more).
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Ditto... I do the same thing, it seems to work
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UnderTow
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Posted : Oct 27, 2006 01:49
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One suggestion is to start by writing a rough outline of your track before you tweak every effect, EQ every sound to perfection, create 100 little breaks and twists, add 50 layers etc. Start with the arrangement (once you have a cool base to work from of course) and when that is done, continue with all the details.
Working like this means you have a full track quite early on. It might not be perfect yet but I think working on the details is easier than trying to come up with a cool arrangement after you have heard (part of) your track a zillion times.
If the arrangement is cool, it doesn't matter that you have heard the track so often because you only need to work on details to make things interesting. The bits that have become boring with over listening, can be enhanced and tweaked to make them interesting for you again. This should also make them interesting to the listeners.
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