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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 17:21
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when i do it with FL peak control , it will send diffrent midi messege to the eq or bass with evry diffrent kick (something extremly easy to change in FL too.. 1 click)
by automate it wont even response to the kick at all just fake to.. not good enough
fake? weird thing to say.
Are the kicks all different? Is it MIDI? Can you send it out to a hardware synth?
Are you saying it is not possible to get the same result with automation?
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 17:30
Without an audio-to-automation converter of some kind* I'd say it's pretty fucking difficult to get 'the same result' unless you're obsessive about it to the point of CALL THE COPS!
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 17:35
I have been to the FL site and I can find no information on this.
What exactly is Elad doing with this device/plugin?
I am having great difficulty understanding his post, maybe that is my fault.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 17:38
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On 2009-02-15 17:21, ~d2~ wrote:
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On 2009-02-15 16:16, Elad wrote:
when i do it with FL peak control , it will send diffrent midi messege to the eq or bass with evry diffrent kick (something extremly easy to change in FL too.. 1 click)
by automate it wont even response to the kick at all just fake to.. not good enough
fake? weird thing to say.
Are the kicks all different? Is it MIDI? Can you send it out to a hardware synth?
Are you saying it is not possible to get the same result with automation?
yes evry kick is diffrent.
yes i can send the midi messege to hardware synth too.
and yes ,its not possible to get the same results with automation. u can get something close that sounds almost the same.
but change the kick and the bass not changed? , shows you that its not really respond to the kick at all. i will post video tutorial to explain .. later today.www.sattelbattle.com http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 17:44
How many kick samples you use in one song then?
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 18:13
1 final. sometimes (rare) 2.
but trying atleast 10
sometimes using layers of 2 kicks then u can sidechain just the sub one to the bass.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 18:19
1 final kick. So then it can be replicated with EQ automation very easily. In fact I could use PT's audio suite option to process with out even using automation.
Really not sure what Colin was getting his knickers in a twist for.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 19:41
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i will post video tutorial to explain .. later today.
Yeah u better since those bastards on you tube obviously dunno how to explain it.. Guy didnt said anything about MIDI.. If its only volume than its easy with gate, but midi to hardware is something more interesting.. Too bad its not available as VST..
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 20:22
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Really not sure what Colin was getting his knickers in a twist for.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 20:32
Is there a prize?
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 21:43
Yup. A book on how not to assume that people are getting their 'knickers in a twist' when they aren't I'll borrow it from you when you've finished. But no matter.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 23:35
This video explains how to do the peak controller stuff that elad is on about, and i think shows some other uses for it, although it's for electro, but never mind you can apply it to your own, worth a watch. The bit about ducking the bass for the kick is about half way through i think, but it's worth watching it all for ideas.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 23:45
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Yup. A book on how not to assume that people are getting their 'knickers in a twist' when they aren't I'll borrow it from you when you've finished. But no matter.
Colin I also have a book titled "how to spot sarcasm on internet forums", your more than welcome to borrow it.
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 23:55
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They way you're suggesting doing it, if you edit your kickdrum rhythm, do you have to edit other stuff too, or does it automatically follow the kick like sidechaining or peak following would?
Are we talking about psy-trance kickrdums rhythms? But anyways, us seasoned PT users don't sweat over editing.
If your were telling me your psy-trance tracks had no single repeatable bars of kick then I would maybe look at side chain. But some how I seriously doubt that a Psy-trance track is going to involve that much variation of the kick drum.
If you have some examples I would love to hear them.
