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Do i really have to care for clipping always ?

Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 16, 2010 23:03:51
lets say while im doin the mix of my track i i want some FX to be real higher than the other elements so it can get the focus in that moment... is it bad if that sound s makin the track clip in that moment but it s still soundin fine ?

i know that i ll have to lower the volume of my track to do the master ... which will make the track not cliping so the wave exported to be mastered wont be cliping... but then will prob have that big difference in the volume , while the base of the track will be reaching around - 2 db , when the FX come in , it ll reach almost 0 DB and i wonder if it ll fuck up the master....           
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Psydust
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Posted : Nov 16, 2010 23:44
yes and no.
if it sounds fine, leave it, but you will have to eliminate peaks later on during mastering stage

or you can just apply a limiter.
makus
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Posted : Nov 16, 2010 23:55
or not mix that hot.           
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 16, 2010 23:59
how can i eliminate the peaks durin the masterin ?           
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:06
Put a limiter on it. But that's not optimal, I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.

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Upavas
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:13
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On 2010-11-17 00:06, A.Rosengren wrote:
Put a limiter on it. But that's not optimal, I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.

A




+1

A limiter will simply cut away every sound above the nominal threshold (0), that is why it is not optimal. However, if it sounds good, it is good. Use your own judgment...
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:17
always a no go when in digital world.When on analogue leven things are worth to discuss.But when you mix in your daw and you have peaks like the master fader shows you red,then its time to find a solution to get it green.
Any distortion (clipping) any plus over 0dbfs is always producing aliasing and this is not what you want.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
aciduss
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:17
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I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.



And how exactly would u do that?
Medea
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:19
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On 2010-11-17 00:17, aciduss wrote:
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I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.



And how exactly would u do that?



turn the master volume down           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
A.Rosengren
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:33
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On 2010-11-17 00:17, aciduss wrote:
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I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.



And how exactly would u do that?



Turn the master fader down, music is exponential to a certain degree, you don't need to max out your monitor output while mixing imho. Do that later or leave it to the guy who masters it. Loudness isn't everything. (to some it sadly is)

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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 00:34
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On 2010-11-17 00:19, Medea wrote:
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On 2010-11-17 00:17, aciduss wrote:
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I would get rid of the peaks before exporting/mixing it.



And how exactly would u do that?



turn the master volume down




+1

A
Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 01:07
hmm the problem i have s that i use too much elements.... so i want the elements to have quick focus in some moments...so i raise them up so it sounds a little out of the mix but on purpose... tho it seems to get a quick cliping but if i lower the volume from the master to export to master now it s hiting
-1 db..... so it would not be cliping right ?           
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A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 01:13
anything with -1 is non clipping but if you add many channels together they might clash and make your main output clip. You might want to check out the individual tracks and/or compress/limit them accordingly.

A
Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 01:34
never thought bout limiting individual tracks, with such act i could remove undesired peaks from the audio wave ?

at some point i also thought bout sidechaining the leads and pads and fx to do that effect of some elements be higher than the others but it would lead me to crazyness coz i would have to create lots of side chains and weird routes i believe , cant think how to side chain it.....           
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Vermeee
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Posted : Nov 17, 2010 01:41
anyway , here is the track i was working that i asked support here....

mixing s my main challenge now...

if someone has the time to listen to it ... i dont think it s soundin dirty....



          
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