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DJs who refuse to mix in or let the next DJ mix in
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Shiranui
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 15:00:25
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Does anyone like it this way besides the DJs themselves?
I think having a break in the music between DJs only serves to call attention to the DJ and as such I don't like it. The transition from one DJ to the next should be so smooth you don't notice it happening.
If you notice every DJ switch, it forces you to be aware of time. |
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 15:15
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So, let's say you have a mix in mind. You have a long beard and believe that you're the only DJ keeping the spirit of Goa pure. Your mix is a self-contained unit, a carefully crafted "concept album" of sorts. Would you want it to be spliced with the next/previous mix? Even if you don't have a beard and an ego the size of Jupiter - would you want your perfect symphony be mixed in with a cooking advice before and President's pep speach after?
P.S. Can see where you're coming from too, though. |
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kazuku
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 16:18
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I agree that breaks can be annoying and should be avoided if possible.
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 17:11
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so here's an idea, get a feel for who's playing before you...write 32 beats of kick and bass to mix out of the dj before you and THEN DROP your intro...that's my new approach 
works really welll flow doesn't stop and the person before you is stoked to see the live act mix out of their dj set  WARNING: The Reality Master General has determined that Mr. Vomit may significantly alter your reality. Usage of the knowledge provided by Mr. Vomit may be perceived as dangerous and subversive by those in authority. |
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makus
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 20:35
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I don't like pause between the mixes, however I hate when next DJ beat matches his first tune with the last one of the previous artist / DJ.
I always start my first track from the very beginning somewhere in the middle of the previous tracks outro.
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 20:44
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On 2011-08-16 15:15, Maine Coon wrote:
So, let's say you have a mix in mind. You have a long beard and believe that you're the only DJ keeping the spirit of Goa pure. Your mix is a self-contained unit, a carefully crafted "concept album" of sorts. Would you want it to be spliced with the next/previous mix? Even if you don't have a beard and an ego the size of Jupiter - would you want your perfect symphony be mixed in with a cooking advice before and President's pep speach after?
P.S. Can see where you're coming from too, though.
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not sure i understand what you mean but it s the dj work to go from one storie to another one smoothly , the dj just before could even help for this , a good dj have tunes to escape from any situation if it don t want to be considered as a bad one imo (like playing cheese mdma sound after some dark psycehlic stuff for example lol , or playing some prog trance while the floor was blasted with some great full on just before)
coming in front the desk playing your sound wihtout going from one storie to a other is not respecting the crowd that was enjoying the sound ,these dj should stop right now..
i have seen some dj playing music they dont usally play just for the guy behind introduce is music more smoothly |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 20:51
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I am guilty of this and feel no remorse. A proper introduction sets the mood. Similarly, letting the last track play out marks the completion of a small part of the journey, a sort of milestone. Whether these breaks are important or not depends on your approach to DJing, however. If it is just an opportunity to grandstand then no, I do not see that as being defensible. In my case, I am interested in the concept of the set as a co-created journey or storyline, something that isn't merely a presentation of other people's music, but a shared musical experience that results from a dynamic feedback loop between what I am doing behind the controls and how people out in the audience are responding. To achieve these aims I find it useful that people know when a changeover has occurred. Intros and outros are certainly better than getting on the mic to make an announcement at least 
Still, I understand why some people would not like this so much, as it can break the flow. But is there a flow? I find that a lot of other psytrance DJs spin a narrow range of music from just a few labels or artists. They have one specific sound they like and it's all they play from start to finish. Moreover, it feels like many DJs I play before or after rely on set lists and never bother to change direction if the crowd isn't feeling it. The end result is rather flat and monotonous, and I feel no regrets in briefly short circuiting things to signify that the approach is about to change.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 21:26
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I'm a fan of breaks between sets. Not long, but enough to notice and for the floor to appreciate the work that the prior dj/act has done.
I think this "if you don't mix into another djs set you should just stop" is worthless grandstanding. If people are having a good time they like to give some love when you're done. Good job...well at least I do.
Not like there aren't breakdowns in tracks.
Now, there is something to be said about breaking the dancers flow...but IMO if that's your major concern you should give the djs longer slots.
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 22:55
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it's unnecessary for there to be silence...even with breakdowns i don't think there's EVER complete and udder silence...unless you are a smart ass and write really silly (priapizzm!)
it's rude to mix out of somebodies track when there's still 1+ minutes left...sometimes the music i / we write gets nuts at 45 seconds left...so i would wait until the very last breakdown before mixing out simple pattern and then dropping the intro for my set
either way you can still give mad love the person exiting the stage, as the person playing after ALWAYS should and people usually follow...
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PoM
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:00
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personaly i m not bothered by silence ,hapen the crowd thanks the dj for a really great time.. but i m bothered by dj that make me go out of my trip mixing something totally different just after |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:12
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Oh wait, we're talking about dead air? No, that's not desirable.
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Aug 16, 2011 23:15
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On 2011-08-16 23:12, Basilisk wrote:
Oh wait, we're talking about dead air? No, that's not desirable.
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 02:02
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Oh yeah, silence isn't required. I tend to start off with something beatless and textural in the intro section and start that a bit before the last track ends...
enough of a break to give some love, but yeah dead air isn't so nice.
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Vermeee
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 03:57
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On 2011-08-16 23:00, PoM wrote:
personaly i m not bothered by silence ,hapen the crowd thanks the dj for a really great time.. but i m bothered by dj that make me go out of my trip mixing something totally different just after
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dont tell me bout it ;/
here in brazil we have a bad habit of havin straigh hours in the night of beutiful dark trance... for when it comes 6 , 7 am... a full on live or set will come in and steal all the mood and progression that happened in the night...
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willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 17, 2011 04:09
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Personally for me, if the night has been dark then 6 or 7 is the perfect time for something different - when the sun is coming out I want uplifting beautiful music
I get bored of any musical style if its played continuously for more than a couple of hours
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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