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Adharaguy
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Posted : Oct 29, 2007 15:21
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Hello there....
most of people thing that mixing is very easy is just adjust bpm and go... But for me the art of dj mixing is much more than that...
But there are somme people like me that nows the dj mixing is a art too.
I thing that we can share somme tips here...
Do you give important to mix musics with the same note (i do, because the mixing sounds very nice and most people can't now the different).
And eq the two music during the mix. how do you do it....
Normally i cut a little the high knob of the new song o comming and only before i pass the bass for the new music i started to put the high in place, avoid the confusion on high frequencies.
but i have somme problem when i chainge the bass, because the chainge of that is very noticiable......there is somme tips to avoid that.
thanks and keep posting.......great forum.....isratrance |
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 00:41
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many many factors can play a role mate.
Like where are you playing.
Indoors....Outdoors....Big ....small....etc.
For instance....if you playing at a small party....with a small setup....there will probably be no compressor....and you will need to keep your eye and ear on the EQ and levels.
But forget HOW the actual mix is done...that is for each to discover and make work for themselves.
What i am interested in...is what you can do...while mixing ....besides just mix the tracks when they play out.
That is MOST boring!
So...what about layering?......RMXing on the fly....Sampling?
Next is.....HOW much of this can you do....without fucking up the intent of the trax (the story)...and what elements can you use to compliment each other using the 2 stories together.
This to me is artistic mixing.
Not how much bass he cuts off when he mixes etc.
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Saf
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 03:54
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On 2007-10-29 15:21, Adharaguy wrote:
And eq the two music during the mix. how do you do it....
Normally i cut a little the high knob of the new song o comming and only before i pass the bass for the new music i started to put the high in place, avoid the confusion on high frequencies.
but i have somme problem when i chainge the bass, because the chainge of that is very noticiable......there is somme tips to avoid |
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One way to avoid people noticing that you're changing things, is to time it right. Do everything, everything with the track's timing in mind, even if you have to count bars.
One example is: Every 8 bars something almost always changes, and therefore it will sound more natural for you to change things at those points, unless you're right in the middle of a buildup or something and you disturb it.
Psytrance gives you a lot of opportunity to do stuff like swap one bassline out and another in, during the end of phrases, where there will be a 'dropout', where the kick and bass is not playing for a bar or 2.
It still depends on where in a track you are, sometimes switching basslines while the dominant track is building up to something will sound really stupid.
Or you can gradually adjust bass by turning the knobs opposite ways as another if you want to do it slower, like when a track is going into it's outro.
It depends on the style of the track too, like I find you can pretty much play two older psy tracks right on top of one another a lot easier than if you're playing newer stuff with the heavier louder kick and bass.
Those type of tracks are also a lot more full of sound all the time, so there's not as much room to add more sounds, but someone better than I can surely do it.
It's mostly timing, you should attempt to do quick changes at the end of a phrase or loop most of the time, you have to listen to the theme for when a major theme is ending.
On Pioneer CDJs, I like to take one bassline out of an incoming track using the Wah effect (which is just neat sounding filter) while still in the headphones.
Then I put the volume up on the incoming track and gradually use the jogwheel to bring in the bass, in time to the music, instead of using the eq's on the mixer.
Anyway none of that stuff is rules, it's just stuff I do.
Here's a link about doing transitions:
http://music.hyperreal.org/dj/AVH/Mixing.html#transition |
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 08:53
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Djing for dummies 
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Insert a CD, select the right track and hit play/pause.
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Jerry
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 12:32
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DJing is definitely an art, there are many out there who can't do it and probably never can. I can't draw, i can DJ. It's just about talent for 90%.
It amazes me to find out so many dj's not understand the basic 8 bar rule. For a flawless mix this is not a rule but it will make it sound a lot sweeter, also considering psytrance always has a 1 or 2 bar break (like saf already said) it allows you to switch your main from deck a to deck b for that moment to make a (just by using the volume sliders on your mixer) break with the track on deck b.
Be sure that you know the tracks you play, don't have to know them inside out but you have to know if there are tricky parts in it, like for example a bpm change or a 1 or 2 bar break somewhere. Especially the short breaks kinda suck if you are just about to mix in your track. You can either fix it by looping the track you are about to mix in for 1 or 2 bars as well or you just have to know the break will be there.
When you are listening to your music you want to play on a gig be sure to pay attention to these kind of things...
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Adharaguy
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 15:11
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thanks people for your's feedback.... i aprecieted....
do you now somme book our pdf text, about this subject???
Saf thanks that link have good things.....i go read it all....
And Dennis!!!!! i thing that is not the way...i a producer to and every people nows that the public nows so much artist because the Dj....don´t forget that.... A dj can put you in the high ground, put your music in partys and things like that.....but if they pass for your soung and he don't apredcieted, you problebly go pass beind everything....... i now very good producers and when his lunch new cds i go buy-it but i never see it....(can you pick the point mmmmm) |
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"42"
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Posted : Oct 30, 2007 18:32
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 31, 2007 18:27
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Nov 2, 2007 14:30
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For me it helps to practice and record myself. And i always count the bars, mixing in mostly at 16 bar or 8 bar starts. If you practice a lot you learn to know your tracks: where does the melody end, does it have a whimpy kick, does it have a melodic or an empty fade-out, etc. and you develop a style. The most important thing is to play at parties though. You'll learn more during a 2 or 3 hour set than during a year at home.
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Saf
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Posted : Nov 2, 2007 22:00
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Yeah play at parties where it's your friends, so you won't be so worried about messing up, cause it's just your friends and they'll forgive you.
Less stressful, and good practice for playing in front of people.
Drinking beer while you play is neat, you get sorta drunk and dance around a bit and it helps you keep time, and be less serious. Which is weird cause I don't really like drinking at parties. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Nov 4, 2007 00:00
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Hm, i found that it works best to be sober when playing out. After numerous gigs of being out of my mind when djing this works best for me. When everything is going okay it's nice to be in a weird state of mind, but if you have to improvise it really helps to have a clear head. You won't eject the record that's playing and you don't have anything to blame a bad set on but yourself 
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Nov 4, 2007 00:13
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but after few beers you get in a different groove =)
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pavaka
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Posted : Nov 5, 2007 15:49
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DJSarasin
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Posted : Nov 6, 2007 08:10
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pavaka
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