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DJ software for mixing darkpsy??
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JodoKaast
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Posted : Jul 18, 2010 05:05
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consciousness
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Posted : Jul 18, 2010 08:32
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The problem I have with Traktor is that it confuses the hihat or some other bassnote for the kick...
And that's a big problem!
Is there some other program that is better at recognizing the kick?
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jul 19, 2010 00:26
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So...you expect the software to be right 100% of the time without you doing any manual adjusting dude?
(some) software is pretty good these days, but none of it is going to be effective 100% of the time...seriously, how hard is it to set the tempo and line up the 4/4 kick on the grid lines?
and again - have you tried ableton? it is very good at transient detection, and for most of the songs I warp I rarely need to make many adjustments.
plus - learning how to manually adjust the software will give you more insight as to how it works, and how the songs are constructed! don't be lazy!
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wizanda
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Posted : Jul 19, 2010 13:17
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consciousness
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Posted : Jul 20, 2010 00:39
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On 2010-07-19 00:26, willsanquil wrote:
seriously, how hard is it to set the tempo and line up the 4/4 kick on the grid lines?
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Thanks, that was helpful.
I think I'll continue with Traktor.. just need to learn how to use it...  |
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kin beat
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 16:06
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Shiranui
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Posted : Jul 21, 2010 22:18
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Does anyone know if there's a way to get traktor to deal properly with tracks that change BPM? like some psykovsky for example will swap back and forth between two BPMs and it'd be nice to be able to mix with either. |
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ohshit
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Posted : Jul 22, 2010 21:16
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mudpeople
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Posted : Jul 29, 2010 02:33
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I use Ableton, though its not really easy per se to just throw tracks into and start playing. It automatically beatmatches, BUT, you have to warp your tracks and make sure they're warped properly (a difference of .01BPM will be noticable towards the end of a track and throws off the mix) first. Its easy as hell once you learn it though. I'd advise getting a midi controller with sliders, Korg has a nice basic one thats around 99 USD that is just a rack of 8 sliders. I set 2 sliders to be channel volumes, and the other 6 I divide up into 3-band EQs for each channel. My midi controller also has nice pads to toggle kills and effects with and a rack of 8 knobs above the sliders, which RULES and gives a lot more stuff to play around with, but if youre looking for basic and cheap its out there. You can even use the keyboard for Live, but its awkward, having actual sliders for the volume and eq is so much better.
I guess i should mention I digitally mix pretty much any style with Live, the main differences between styles would be what effects sound good with em (glitchy stutters and proggy smoothness dont really work together imo for example), thats all a matter of taste tho.
Also I do mix by hand with cds if I care to, but to me, digital mixing is more participatory than CD mixing. With CDs Im always concentrating on syncing the mix WHILE blending and all that, but with digital mixing I can focus on blending entirely, which means i get to enjoy the music more, and it feels less like work and more like play.  IMO theres nothing wrong with digital mixing, its just different. Remember all the oldschool vinyl heads who refused to play CDs? Same deal.
Oh and one more thing; 24bit 96kbps. That is all.
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Acid Dreamz
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 19:09
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On 2010-07-17 20:42, willsanquil wrote:
I'm pretty sure its not the software dude - Traktor is used by a lot of people and I've never ever heard that it 'can't beatmatch' - and its not like darkpsy is some crazy foreign music that doesn't integrate well with software - *any* music with 4/4 kick in it is *incredibly* easy to warp (idk what terminology Traktor uses), especially if you know the BPM.
That being said, maybe you should try some different software- I tried out traktor and a couple of other bits of software that emulated vinyl/cdj setups and I found it uninspiring, but ableton on the other hand suited me perfectly.
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100% true!!!
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Acid Dreamz
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 19:21
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On 2010-07-29 02:33, mudpeople wrote:
I use Ableton, though its not really easy per se to just throw tracks into and start playing. It automatically beatmatches, BUT, you have to warp your tracks and make sure they're warped properly (a difference of .01BPM will be noticable towards the end of a track and throws off the mix) first. Its easy as hell once you learn it though. I'd advise getting a midi controller with sliders, Korg has a nice basic one thats around 99 USD that is just a rack of 8 sliders. I set 2 sliders to be channel volumes, and the other 6 I divide up into 3-band EQs for each channel. My midi controller also has nice pads to toggle kills and effects with and a rack of 8 knobs above the sliders, which RULES and gives a lot more stuff to play around with, but if youre looking for basic and cheap its out there. You can even use the keyboard for Live, but its awkward, having actual sliders for the volume and eq is so much better.
I guess i should mention I digitally mix pretty much any style with Live, the main differences between styles would be what effects sound good with em (glitchy stutters and proggy smoothness dont really work together imo for example), thats all a matter of taste tho.
Also I do mix by hand with cds if I care to, but to me, digital mixing is more participatory than CD mixing. With CDs Im always concentrating on syncing the mix WHILE blending and all that, but with digital mixing I can focus on blending entirely, which means i get to enjoy the music more, and it feels less like work and more like play. IMO theres nothing wrong with digital mixing, its just different. Remember all the oldschool vinyl heads who refused to play CDs? Same deal.
Oh and one more thing; 24bit 96kbps. That is all.
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very much like Ableton with easier interface is Mixmeister Fusion Live. Its also sequencer based which is editable, tracks can be previewed upto 20 seconds coming up, all VSTs are compatible...light weight n never crashes. Using the inbulit Izotope Ozone Vst , wonders can be done on the playing track..for DJ sets just make a playlist, select the beatmatcihning in 8 beat format in atuomatic mode n go off to sleep...a flawless set without any beat mismatch will be ready!!! For complex mixing, song slicer and time strecthing is also there.
Compared to Ableton, the disadvantage is that , production isnt posible without using VSTs.
Advantage over Ableton is that for monitoring a worst possible USB sound card can be used n a ASIO4ALL compatible multichannel sound card is not needed. Morever it has autosave option.
http://www.mixmeister.com/products_mmfusion.html
http://www.mixmeister.com/tour/tutorialmenu.htm
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Zero-Blade
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Posted : Aug 16, 2010 18:28
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Traktor can auto beatmatch all tracks 100% perfectly if you know how to use it. The fact that you just analyzed 2 tracks and tried to sync them with 1 button doesn't mean the software is bad, it means the device in front of the pc a.k.a. human doesn't know shit and is trying to blame the soft.
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Aug 19, 2010 16:32
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+100000000 with zero blade
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Greententacle
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Posted : Aug 19, 2010 22:51
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V3NOM
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Posted : Aug 22, 2010 14:41
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I use 2 x CDJ 100 & 1 X DJM 400, it has worked perfectly for me for the last about 7 years of dj'ing and I don't plan to upgrade any time in the future because I actually enjoy having to work behind the decks and not use use a machine to do all the work for me.
The only time i don;t use these is when I do drum n' bass sets, then I use 4 vinyl decks n' a 4 channel mixer but these are owned by the club I play at, I have no vinyl decks at home and have always mixed DnB in club on the fly only.
At the end of the day, I think anyone who can't plug in to any old brand of dj hardware and mix on the fly should give up and go and get a job stacking shelves at their local supermarket instead.
This topic sucks worse then the crack whore down my street.
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