maybe after minimal techno, riktam and bansi decide to make another fashion shit style, and infects all the popular scene one more time =(
dont know if minimal techno has to do a lot whith what r n b produce.
now for the partys there...this is sad...
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It wouldn't be a new trend if people wouldn't enjoy it! Respect for all twisted minds and pure hearts out there!
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It's all a matter of taste, personally I don't like the development many prog(and full on) floors have taken, alot of sound has become more club flavored. IMHO the more this aspect begins to dominate the psychedelic flavor, the rawness becomes lost.
I used to love Ticon for instance, now they make eps called "a sucker for weekends".. WTF? To me this has zero appeal, psytrance knows no stopping on Sunday afternoon.. That is club culture, weekend hobby trend etarding.. Where u have to be careful of the dude with the geled hair and tight jeans rubbing up on you or ur girlfriend as you are trying to trance.....
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kazuku,
So very true.
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 06:53
When did you love Ticon? In 2008 when they were putting out tracks like "Weekend Warriors" and "Models On Cocaine"? How about 2005 with the epic "U Make Me Wanna Drink More"? Or even back to 2001 with "Super Model Girlfriend"? These guys have always been on that vibe.
Now what I find funny is that all these psytrance producers are turning around and making slick, fat, heavy-handed progressive techno... while a lot of techno artists make nuanced, layered, deeply psychedelic stuff! Mix is all together and you have a very tasty blend of elements--bits and pieces of progressive house, minimal techno, and what I call "deep" psychedelic trance (for lack of a more precise term). Listen to some Boris Brejcha or Max Cooper for instance. Plenty of psytrance fans will surely write these guys off as "club" music without even taking a second to recognize how deeply psychedelic their music is. It's a shame.
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Posted : Apr 4, 2010 10:59
Also check out Stimming that has a deep psychedelic vibe:
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Good point Basilisk... Ticon have been like this for a long time, so when did I love Ticon? Looooong time ago with "we are the mammoth hunters", that album.
After that mehhh .... I guess u are right...
Been listening to all the Tech stuff from all the Psytrance heavyweights. I wouldnt say its bad.... cause it has the drive of psytrance with techno elements. Although you have to agree that is very dancefloor oriented, and everytime i have dropped some of those tracks at clubs, everybody is really enjoying! Especially stuff from labels like Tribal Vision... which releases more of Techno and Prog house ... with a slight psy touch.....
And yes... then there is stuff like Boris Brejcha and newer stuff from Dyno..... which is really really good! but a regular psy guy might just pass it off as club stuff ....
but on the whole, i quite dig this crossover style....
Prime Time sounds like what Paps and Yumade and those acts would be producing if they were still around. Very slick minimal sounds, deep and trippy!
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When did you love Ticon? In 2008 when they were putting out tracks like "Weekend Warriors" and "Models On Cocaine"? How about 2005 with the epic "U Make Me Wanna Drink More"? Or even back to 2001 with "Super Model Girlfriend"? These guys have always been on that vibe.
Now what I find funny is that all these psytrance producers are turning around and making slick, fat, heavy-handed progressive techno... while a lot of techno artists make nuanced, layered, deeply psychedelic stuff! Mix is all together and you have a very tasty blend of elements--bits and pieces of progressive house, minimal techno, and what I call "deep" psychedelic trance (for lack of a more precise term). Listen to some Boris Brejcha or Max Cooper for instance. Plenty of psytrance fans will surely write these guys off as "club" music without even taking a second to recognize how deeply psychedelic their music is. It's a shame.
100% agreed here.. the most psy trance producers that gone techno/minimal they produce 100% clubby music without soul just made from current stereotypes! for example why should I like the new Ticon or Riktam & Bansi or that direction that Iboga and Tribal Vision follow, when I have the hyperspaced sounds of Minilogue, Donato Dozzy, Jurek P, Deadbeat,Modern Heads, Boris Brejcha, Brendon Moeller, D.Diggler, Peter van Hoesen and many more techno and some ex trance producers who create amazing trippy hyperspaced music..
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Posted : Apr 12, 2010 11:58
You don't have to like anything. But let others enjoy what they like. I really dig the latest efforts of psy turned techno. It has something that most other techno i have heard does not have. Although I can't really put my finger on what it exactly is.
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earlier house and techno was uninspiring, formulaic and predictable and psytrance was new and fresh ...
seems that psytrance is more formulaic and predictible these days and techno more creative..
mainstream techno has never been as good as psy producers going to techno because it didn't have the depth, atmospheres and development a psychedelic tune has..
if i was at an outdoor scene i would definitely like to have both options available psy as well as psytech..
"both are better" and its no point arguing over it.. some people like it and some don't... its your life and do what you want with it..
the "scene" is always changing and evolving and i dont see a reason to fear that techno is going to ruin our "Scene" as scenes also evolve and sub scenes can appear
