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disadvantages of using a limiter on bassline
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 17:42:15
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other than keeping the peaks level, what are the disadvantages?? cheers
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 17:49
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makus
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 19:04
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 23, 2009 19:49
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you tell me
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 05:48
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I use 2 limiters on bass sometimes. 1 to limit the signal so all the notes are the same volume, then 1 to raise the signal.
I don't know if it's that big of a deal, but I don't think it added any distortion.
Most people sample basses I guess? so that each note is the same strength.
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realtime
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 07:22
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On 2009-06-24 05:48, Obelizk wrote:
I use 2 limiters on bass sometimes. 1 to limit the signal so all the notes are the same volume, then 1 to raise the signal.
I don't know if it's that big of a deal, but I don't think it added any distortion.
Most people sample basses I guess? so that each note is the same strength.
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2 limiters = nonsense (imho)
or what is the advance you see in that?
rather use (sidechained) compression.
and i really think: dynamics are wanted 
and limiter on master output: it's useful for parties with a bit sensible neighbors ... http://www.myspace.com/realtimeproject |
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Obelizk
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 07:33
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jizy
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 15:24
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On 2009-06-24 07:22, realtime wrote:
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On 2009-06-24 05:48, Obelizk wrote:
I use 2 limiters on bass sometimes. 1 to limit the signal so all the notes are the same volume, then 1 to raise the signal.
I don't know if it's that big of a deal, but I don't think it added any distortion.
Most people sample basses I guess? so that each note is the same strength.
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2 limiters = nonsense (imho)
or what is the advance you see in that?
rather use (sidechained) compression.
and i really think: dynamics are wanted
and limiter on master output: it's useful for parties with a bit sensible neighbors ...
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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 15:28
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well, my way is sidechain compression in bass and then in kickbass group i use waves l2 to get the same level in kick and bass |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 15:36
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I like to let the transient through before compressing + limiter's ratio for compressing a trance bassline, is too high for my liking.
What synth are you using that has so wild level variations on different notes?
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makus
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 16:58
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to me the most important thing for _fast-psy-bassline_ is retrigger. if synth has no retrigger just sample notes. it will give you constant levels and the notes gonna sound solid.
for other types of basslines, in techno, or progressive, i would leave oscilators flow. it gives really nice warm and live feeling.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 17:05
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On 2009-06-24 16:58, makus wrote:
to me the most important thing for _fast-psy-bassline_ is retrigger. if synth has no retrigger just sample notes. it will give you constant levels and the notes gonna sound solid.
for other types of basslines, in techno, or progressive, i would leave oscilators flow. it gives really nice warm and live feeling.
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That's a thing that needs talking about. People didn't really used to sample bass notes before that domestic post, yet their basslines, sounded fine.
And why shouldn't someone leave the oscillators flow and give trance basslines a warm and nice feeling as well?
we have compressors and we are triggering a synth, which has a far smaller dynamic range than a bass guitar, even with the oscillators running free...
are we the victims of what some big artist said to the point where we absolutely have to start our bass synth oscillator, from the same point of the cycle, without even asking why?
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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 23:41
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i think the big levels from note varitions can be solved by equalization with notch filters removing the frequencies that make the note sound louder... |
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Jun 24, 2009 23:48
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On 2009-06-24 16:58, makus wrote:
to me the most important thing for _fast-psy-bassline_ is retrigger. if synth has no retrigger just sample notes. it will give you constant levels and the notes gonna sound solid.
for other types of basslines, in techno, or progressive, i would leave oscilators flow. it gives really nice warm and live feeling.
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sry jizy & all, getting off topic,
but what does the retrigger do?
and I know about free-flow option on the oscilaters but what does it do?
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PsYmOrPh
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Posted : Jun 25, 2009 01:42
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retrigger is play the note from the begin or the value you want (attack) example ..the sound of bass have 4miliseconds....every time you play one note will start sound at 0miliseconds in every note, this way will sound always the same in every note
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