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shahar
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Posted : Jan 1, 2010 15:59
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On 2009-12-31 23:45, bbgun wrote:
Labels and artists can break clutter by releasing quality music. There is very little of that. So, it's only normal that most artists are never heard of.
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Simple and smart & 100% truth.
Though, not sure it's financially viable, these days. It seems there's more money in releasing tons of shit then few quality releases.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 1, 2010 19:09
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On 2010-01-01 15:59, shahar wrote:
Simple and smart & 100% truth.
Though, not sure it's financially viable, these days. It seems there's more money in releasing tons of shit then few quality releases.
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+1
Work on an Album for a year+ and see it sell 200 copies. Honestly it's not worth the while anymore.
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 00:18
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Work on an Album for a year+ and see it sell 200 copies. Honestly it's not worth the while anymore.
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Make a killer album and make sure its killer =) Original, top notch stuff and u'll be booked all over the world and make some nice bux even with 200 copys sold. It'll be worth it.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 00:20
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On 2010-01-02 00:18, Wizack Twizack wrote:
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Work on an Album for a year+ and see it sell 200 copies. Honestly it's not worth the while anymore.
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Make a killer album and make sure its killer =) Original, top notch stuff and u'll be booked all over the world and make some nice bux even with 200 copys sold. It'll be worth it.
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No thanks I am not into 150 bpm's  and prefer to stay true to what I want to express as an artist instead of feeding the masses with music i don't even like myself just to get these "star" bookings high on a pedistal.
I prefer to give the music away for free even when it does not give bookings because organizers think only CD released artists are the thing. www.beatagency.dk |
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 00:53
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 01:01
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On 2010-01-02 00:53, Wizack Twizack wrote:
Who said something about 150 bpm?
imo most of the good music is way belove 150 bpm.
If u do something orginal and super nice, i bet u would like it, dont u think? =)
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Many original artists rarely get a booking whereas many unoriginal artists get all the bookings (with exceptions of course). Try contacting 250+ organizers do a lot of promotion etc. with a new original well thought through straight from the heart album and see how many bother to reply back or even book you. It get's even harder if you give away the music for free or sell it only digital. Then the organizers think you are no good. So I like to see it happen before I believe it. Even names like OOOD who work their ass off and make original music, as well as actually play their music live, don't see many bookings. And then count every event and festival out there and look at their lineups. Same artists on every lineup. 80% not very original
Sorry i think we got off-topic here 
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 05:20
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I personally am not a big fan of digital downloads. and selling them really is kind of hard. theres no difference in a file you steal or a file you buy.
I hope Cds will be able to stay around, the sound quality is better, and having a tangible Cd in your hand adds to the experience.
but I see the benefits of the download world. no cost, no stock, easy to spread. etc
Labels need to put a lot of care into Cds now, and make sure every track is proper, cohesive, good mastering, and nice design. making cds more of a collectors item.
also, i think the labels need to start focusing sells more on the mass's and not just djs. everyday people like this music too, so why not put it in more mainstream stores. whats up with staying so underground like we have some secret wisdom we cant share with the world.
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Bom*shankar
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 07:51
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On 2010-01-02 05:20, kameleonpangea36 wrote:
theres no difference in a file you steal or a file you buy.
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there is. when you buy you support label and artist you like and they can make more music. when you still you kill the music u like.
I 'steal' to preview. I buy what i like when i have money. |
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Andrew
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 13:20
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On 2010-01-02 01:01, Beat Agency wrote:
Many original artists rarely get a booking whereas many unoriginal artists get all the bookings (with exceptions of course). Try contacting 250+ organizers do a lot of promotion etc. with a new original well thought through straight from the heart album and see how many bother to reply back or even book you. It get's even harder if you give away the music for free or sell it only digital. Then the organizers think you are no good. So I like to see it happen before I believe it. Even names like OOOD who work their ass off and make original music, as well as actually play their music live, don't see many bookings. And then count every event and festival out there and look at their lineups. Same artists on every lineup. 80% not very original
Sorry i think we got off-topic here
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I tend to agree with you here. I know its Off topic
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exotic
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 13:24
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On 2010-01-02 07:51, Bom*shankar wrote:
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On 2010-01-02 05:20, kameleonpangea36 wrote:
theres no difference in a file you steal or a file you buy.
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there is. when you buy you support label and artist you like and they can make more music. when you still you kill the music u like.
I 'steal' to preview. I buy what i like when i have money.
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i think kameleon has a point. whether you pay for the music or steal it, you dont tend to perceive the two any differently other than the price attached to it which could be a deterrent to people not so worried about supporting artists and labels, people who want theit music by hook or by crook.
as long as piracy exists, digital content will find it hard to grab a fair share when compared to sales of their physical counterparts.
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 16:54
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On 2010-01-02 13:24, exotic wrote:
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On 2010-01-02 07:51, Bom*shankar wrote:
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On 2010-01-02 05:20, kameleonpangea36 wrote:
theres no difference in a file you steal or a file you buy.
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there is. when you buy you support label and artist you like and they can make more music. when you still you kill the music u like.
I 'steal' to preview. I buy what i like when i have money.
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i think kameleon has a point. whether you pay for the music or steal it, you dont tend to perceive the two any differently other than the price attached to it which could be a deterrent to people not so worried about supporting artists and labels, people who want theit music by hook or by crook.
as long as piracy exists, digital content will find it hard to grab a fair share when compared to sales of their physical counterparts.
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exactly my thoughts!
whether you buy or download the song free you get the same file. steal it or buy it. same thing.
with the same logic applied to a physical Cd.
unless you steal it from the store you dont have it.
Its much easier for peoples conscious to steal a track online rather than stealing the physical CD from the store. when its basically the same thing.
in actuality printing the Cds is not even the expensive part.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 23:18
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kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Jan 2, 2010 23:38
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bbgun
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Posted : Jan 4, 2010 00:08
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On 2010-01-01 15:59, shahar wrote:
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On 2009-12-31 23:45, bbgun wrote:
Labels and artists can break clutter by releasing quality music. There is very little of that. So, it's only normal that most artists are never heard of.
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Simple and smart & 100% truth.
Though, not sure it's financially viable, these days. It seems there's more money in releasing tons of shit then few quality releases.
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True. But the thing is, in a genre such as psytrance, can the motivation possibly be profit? Not that there's anything wrong in that, but does the size of the market even accommodate that possibility? My thinking is, when you know it's near impossible to make money from this genre, why release more crappy releases than just a few quality ones? To me, it seems like people are trying to put their own names out there and establish themselves as a formidable artist/label. However, as many of us know, that is nothing but being a bozo since the labels who stand out are the ones who put out a few, quality releases and create a sense of scarcity. So perhaps, even financially, it maybe more viable to have listeners drooling, and release the occasional release and reap above-average returns at most twice or thrice a year. |
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