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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 18:28
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So...looks like CDs are not going to stay with us for much longer. What with the MLW (Music Like Water) model http://www.forbes.com/columnists/free_forbes/2005/0131/042.html and now the Digital DJ Licence is upon us http://www.djmag.com/newsfeat173.php
The majors are going with the "if you can't beat them, join'em" approach.
Pay for your music, like you pay for electricity, or TV licence (for those living in the UK), or Digital TV.
What do you think about that? Would you like to pay $3-$5 a month and get unlimited music? Do you think its fair? It looks like a no brainer if you're buying music like crazy.
But then again you'd have to pay a music licence for as long as you listen to music...
Its a strong argument and the majors have it in their sights and its going to make their executives, even richer.
Of course all that is going to take a couple of years before it becomes the norm, but what do you think about it anyway?
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 18:59
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Gerd Leonhard and David Kusek, coauthors of the new book "The Future of Music," have some strong views on the current state and future direction of the music business. Their book is described as a "manifesto for the digital music revolution."
Here are some thoughts from Leonhard in an article he wrote called "Music Like Water: The Inevitable Music Ecosystem":
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"I strongly believe we are heading into a 'music like water' future, based on this very simple fact: today, there are more people in more places around the globe that are tuning into music with more enthusiasm and sheer determination than ever before, and they are using a myriad of their own particular ways and means to get what they want. And to a large degree the 'traditional' record industry is simply no longer invited to the party - the bottom line is that consumer empowerment has finally reached the music business, and many consumers have now taken charge of their own entertainment."
Leonhard asserts that flat-fee, subscription-based services will be more attactive to music-hungry fans (and better for artists) than the iTunes-like, pay-per-download model.
"Once we can subscribe to music just like we subscribe to water, the music business will EXPLODE and we will enter a new ecosystem that will make the previous music industry look like NY taxicabs from the 30th floor of the BMG building ...
"There's only one thing: we MUST stop asking the consumers to fill up their bath tubs with Evian, or to use Pellegrino to boil pasta -- they have already discovered the tab water! So let's just sell them tap water, via cheap flat fee deals, AND the Pellegrino, as well -- and this does not equal a flat-out, wholesale devaluation of music; quite the contrary. Ubiquity is a very powerful thing, and will create a nice pool of money for all involved parties -- a pool which will only be the very first starting point for a much increased monetization of music.
"Once music is unleashed and we can stop the dinosaurial fight for the simple privilege of having access to it, distribution seizes to be a barrier to entry: all music, all artists and all writers will be in those pipelines. Then, however, artists and their representatives will be facing the real challenge: getting anyone to pay attention to them, and surviving in this world of 'digital darwinism', since the old marketing mantra of Exposure + Discovery = Sales (Income) will be even more pronounced in a Music-Like-Water world.
"Ultimately, of course, people will consume, or shall we say, use more media (music) all the time, yes, but the real limiting factor is people's TIME. Simply put, all of the world's music (and its creators) will be competing for attention in this new ecosystem, and everyone will want a piece if your precious time. THAT will be the real challenge going forward: getting exposure and being discovered -- the rest is already build into the pipeline. So, brave new music ecosystem -- yes, but not a build-in goldmine." |
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Read the entire article at www.futureofmusicbook.com
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Ken
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 19:22
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If I pay $3 - $5 a month for unlimited downloads from a collection like those on the online stores like PsyShop or Saikosounds... I'll be a very happy man.
I just worry that the selection of trance trax wont be that great (like major labels only), and we get very small amount of new releases each month.
How will the pool of subscription fee be divided amoungst the artists? Will minor new acts get anything for their trax? Or will their trax ever make it on these sites?   The music was like new black polished chrome
that came over the sky like liquid night.
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 20:10
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On 2006-03-02 19:22, Ken wrote:
I just worry that the selection of trance trax wont be that great (like major labels only), and we get very small amount of new releases each month.
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thats a very good point here ken..!!
anywayz thats a very intersting topic ..
i"m waiting for more comments
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neuromantik
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Posted : Mar 2, 2006 23:31
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The French Parliament has proposed a law that essentially does the same thing but in a different way. They are proposing to tax all high bw internet connections with like 6-10 euros (out of avg 30 eurs) and with that money, officially decriminilizing the exchange of files over the internet. Now everybody and their mom making music is crying out against this law and chances are it will never pass but I guess some people are realising that the former music business model is dying and either they profit from it or they dont. |
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tim@motion
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 00:00
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well i guess i'll go with it...i'm already in to it...downloading music justifies the meaning of the stupid monster in front of me....(sorry bill...the gates one)
Wait a minute!!...My whole life justifies the monster...or the monster does so? ehmmm...
wtf? i'm stuck. The real face of money right in front of us. Trading, dealing, booking, loving, hating. Addiction or way of life?
downloading Kasey Taylor's -tea in the sahara rmx. Original track by Greed. I should quit smoking anyway
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traveller
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 03:56
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I prefer analog downloads
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Basilisk
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 06:10
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Perhaps this would be fine for pop music saturation, but I'm not convinced the concept would work very well for much else... especially not dance music, which is an entirely different subject.
Whatever the case, there will always be a market for the physical product - it's just a question of how the raw data is manipulated in the future.
FYI tim, Tea in the Sahara is available in wave format from beatport...
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Basilisk
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 06:11
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Oh and thanks for the link anyway, this whole blog will make for good reading.
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odysseus
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 11:00
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On 2006-03-02 18:28, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
So...looks like CDs are not going to stay with us for much longer. What with the MLW (Music Like Water) model http://www.forbes.com/columnists/free_forbes/2005/0131/042.html and now the Digital DJ Licence is upon us http://www.djmag.com/newsfeat173.php
The majors are going with the "if you can't beat them, join'em" approach.
Pay for your music, like you pay for electricity, or TV licence (for those living in the UK), or Digital TV.
What do you think about that? Would you like to pay $3-$5 a month and get unlimited music? Do you think its fair? It looks like a no brainer if you're buying music like crazy.
But then again you'd have to pay a music licence for as long as you listen to music...
Its a strong argument and the majors have it in their sights and its going to make their executives, even richer.
Of course all that is going to take a couple of years before it becomes the norm, but what do you think about it anyway?
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and what about the quality of this manifesto?
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tim@motion
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 21:25
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On 2006-03-03 06:10, basilisk wrote:
FYI tim, Tea in the Sahara is available in wave format from beatport...
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Thanx my friend
But i got the original sog va compilation today. Greed tea in the sahara (K.taylor rmx) included . btw are you somehow connected with beatport?
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clown
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Posted : Mar 4, 2006 02:29
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Basilisk
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Posted : Mar 4, 2006 07:03
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Haha, yeah. I'm just a customer. I happened to notice they had that track up there recently, since I was searching through Greed's list of tracks up there.
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robomarket
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Posted : Mar 4, 2006 09:57
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5 rocks a month for unlimited downloads!? I'd do it only if labels and artists are not endangered by this. If these factions play their cards right, they can both benefit from it. Imagine every single psyhead subscribing to this service! With piracy around, that will probably bring more profit than CDs. But than, MP3 is not an adequate substitute for a CD quality. But than...again, people seem not to care about that anymore. Ahh, dilemmas. |
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tim@motion
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Posted : Mar 4, 2006 14:11
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On 2006-03-04 02:29, clown wrote:
He's not connected to beatport, he was just making sure you have dignity
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hehehe No worries. My best friend/partner runs the biggest trance record store in where i live. He helps me a lot in maintaining my dignity
Although i admit i offen download from pirate sites, but the bitrate there mostly sucks. When i find sth that moves me i run to my friend's record store. If he doesn't have what i want i then run to an official site with wav format or at least 320K
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