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Differences between Cubase and Logic
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 15:57
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Hello all,
At the risk of starting another 'which sequencer is the best' topic, I wanted to ask folks who have experience with both Cubase and Logic what the advantages of one over the other are.
Right now I have been using Cubase for a couple years and am fairly familiar/comfortable with it. However I know that Logic has some very nice sounding synths, and that a lot of artists I respect use it. I am considering switching over to it in the coming months, but was curious if there was any functional differences between it and Cubase.
I'm especially interested in anything that you Logic users go "wow, I wish Cubase had this X feature like Logic does."
Right now I'm still on a PC, so I will be limited to an older version of Logic. No mac just yet. 
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Surrender
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 18:56
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with all my respsect (and there is respect  ) to logic... if youre staying with a pc - stick with cubase. i see no point crossing over to an obselete program while sx3 and so on are out.
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:04
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so there's nothing in 5.5 that would be worth it?
I have to admit, SX3 *does* look pretty nice (I was checking specs on it again today).
I was just curious if there was something magic about Logic.
Thanks for the advice Gadi! 
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mubali
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:02
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On one hand 5.5. is a little outdated, but it is not completely unuseable. I really really like the Synths that come with Logic. The plugins are great for me, I hardly use any other vst effects besides the native ones. The environment is incredibly powerful and can be used to pull off some really interesting things if you figure out how to work with it.
The sound quality between the two are indeed the same. I do like cubase's ability to process an audio file with just the plugin without having to insert it and bounce it. Also the freeze function is a definite plus.
I personally use 5.5 for my production. I tried to use Cubase and I would probably use it more if I had learned it first, but once you get your brain wired to the Logic way of doing things, it's hard to learn a new language.
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:11
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Logic is a very personal program - you adjust it to your special needs in your special studio and to your special world.
I have to agree with Surrender and advice against switching to 5.5 if you're not going to buy a mac - but then maybe you need to learn 5.5 first in order to even consider buying a mac - we the 5.5 users allready drooling for Logic 7.
I think another plus of Logic is non-destructive sample processing. If you want to chop your sample, the original sample will never get chopped - it can even stay with all the bad recording takes and everything. You just take those parts you need.
Basicly the biggest plus I can think of, is that Logic costs relatively little to what you're getting:
You get Logic , you get the plugs... you get an integrated sampler... You get a complete (best imo) workstation. and btw it's VERY stable... even on windows
I don't think you will be able to switch without trying it really hard. And don't forget that 5.5 is rather outdated comparing to Cubase sx3 - but still superior in many aspects. Allways keep Logic 7 in mind...
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:13
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On 2005-03-16 20:02, mubali wrote:
The environment is incredibly powerful and can be used to pull off some really interesting things if you figure out how to work with it.
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The sound quality between the two are indeed the same. I do like cubase's ability to process an audio file with just the plugin without having to insert it and bounce it. Also the freeze function is a definite plus.
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100 % agree . Fuzzi mate , i seriously recommend and advise DO NOT switch over the logic 5.5 only bcoz some artsits using it and some one probably told you , logic is awsome ... lol ....thts lame shit imo ...
if u are good @ using cubase , y switch over man ... ? sx is no bullshit program ... instead i iadvise just improve ur song writing skills and mixing techniques and try gettting the most of out Sx ... good luck !
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PsYx
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:16
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Mubali wrote:
"once you get your brain wired to the Logic way of doing things, it's hard to learn a new language."
That's totaly true...
I tried Cubase sx2 last summer, but I couldn't get used to it...
In Logic there's more than 1 way to achieve certain tasks...it's up to you which method U use...
Every program has his pros & cons !!!
As for the PC side of things...Cubase has to be the way to go...
I think Cubase sx3 & Logic 7 share most of the same functions.
It'll definately stop my current workflow if i had to learn Cubase again...
A big pro for Logic 7 is the amount of plugs that are coming with the program, but it also has it's pricetag offcourse ! |
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mubali
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:22
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It really doesn't matter what you use, as long as you use it to the best of your ability. There are many artists that use both and really you should use what you are comfortable with. BTW, Logic IS awesome, but so is Cubase. Now if there were a way to hook the computer up to your brain....
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 21:13
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if u are good @ using cubase , y switch over man ... ? sx is no bullshit program ... instead i iadvise just improve ur song writing skills and mixing techniques and try gettting the most of out Sx ... good luck !
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I have found that features of the sequencer will greatly influence my ideas, and thought that perhaps there were some exclusive features in Logic that I might be missing out on in Cubase.
For example: recently I learned how to do 'one-shot' fx processing in Cubase, being able to select a segment of audio and run it through a VSTi without having to use a plugin, do a bounce, etc. This one little trick opened up a world of ideas, and I've been using it like mad ever since I discovered it.
Now if some programmer at Steinberg hadn't thought to add this feature, I might never have considered some of the tricks I'm doing with my music right now. I wondered if there were similar tricks in Logic that made some folks prefer it.
I'm always hungry to be learning.
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 00:27
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Like the mirror fx in soundforge?
No man as far s i know.
Logic is super
Hit the channeltrack to see the beauty of th mixer.
Insert fx/inst and play,Really cool |
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 09:44
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What are you all on about? Switch to Sonar!
Interesting tool in Sonar: Dump a loop into it, type CTRL-L and it is tempo matched. Double click on it and mess with the pitch envelope and you have Live style pitch effects on individual hits of your loop.
But back to your question, i'll agree that switching to Logic 5.5 is a bit pointless. Logic 6/7 is great but you have to count the price of a Mac in your budget. Logic does come with a huge collection of plugins but you have an infinitely larger selection of free plugins for the PC than for the Mac.
Basicly, you can use any of the major sequencers to make music with. If you are stuck musicaly with your current sequencer, changing to another one will probably not help much. So if that is the reason, don't bother.
If you are not happy with the interface/workflow of your current sequencer, then check out the other ones available. They might suite you better.
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 14:25
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Both SX and Logic are more than enough for making belters. The processing power and capabilities, surpass proper professional studios of yesterday. Stop worrying about which one to use in terms of capabilities and use the one that suits your way of working the most. I would not change over from Cubase to Logic just to use, ESm for example. I would simply get a synth (instead of spending cash on getting Logic, get a Juno 60or a SCi Pro1, or an Sh-101 which is a psy-trance workhorse synth for decades) that sounds as good (and since I have used ESm) MUCH better than that. Same with the rest of the plugs, there's loads of nice VST or DSP card based plugs like the Creamware, UAD-1, Powercore...etc.
I use Logic 5.5 and in no way it is restricting my creativity (besides the midi not being as tight as hardware sequencers/atari).
Whoever says Cubase SX, or Logic are not good enough for making tunes, they have no idea about what they're talking about what so ever.
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maka
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 16:27
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Stay on PC go with Cubase.
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Sirius Taurus
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I use both But My whole life and STudio revolve around logic 5.5.If you are a PC use the last one they made was5.5 wich is fine for me .If you use a mac of course now the latest version is 999.0 USA dollars.Cubase and Neueno are basicly the same And sound great ,BUT There is Always a but.LOGIC has the VERY BEST THE VERY CLEANEST of AUDIO out put Algorytyms The Sound is PRISTINE ,Deffined and Deep,Full, and Rich ,Depening of Course on you and what you have sequeneced in the Arrangement page and how you have EQ'ed your Mix,,,,,,,Your Ears are what makes it sound good and what you do with the tools you have to work with |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Mar 18, 2005 15:23
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Warning: I'm in a bit of a silly mood. Don't take this post to seriously.
Sirius Taurus: Bollocks to that! Sorry but you are talking out of your arse. The major sequencers output exactly the same audio. Actually if you really want to be argumentative, Sonar has the best engine as the busses all run at 64Bit. Beat that Emapple! ;-P Oh and go and fix the PDC as you are at it ... Well what does one expect from a Macintoy?
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