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Delay feedback effects

Hypnotic Vice

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Posted : May 26, 2010 08:27:11
I've been wondering about a particular kind of effect, where you apply an effect to a delays feedback, and every subsequent feedback of the delay has that effect applied more and more.

For example, the stock Cubase Ping Pong Delay has this built in with its filters; e.g. if you activate its high pass filter and set the feedback level high, each time it feeds back it will have less and less low end as it gets filtered again and again.

You hear this with a lot of artists especially Ott: lots of instruments with long delays, and rather than the delays simply "fading" away uniformly, they fade away from the lower frequencies on upwards.

So, I'd like to use this same basic principle- but applying other VST effects to the feedback chain. For example, applying more and more distortion, etc.

Do you know of a best practice for doing this in general, and specifically within Cubase?
Freeflow
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : May 26, 2010 12:55
just automate the distortion or filter and increase the amount as the delay fades out

try the TAL dub delays and if you want bitcrusher or distortion to fade out with the delay you can put it on the insert or probably send too and either map the distortion amount to a knob and twist and record in realtime or just automate it...

just count the beats of the delay so you can add gradually... playing around is the only way =) You can try with phaser, chorus, reverb, Lfo panning, gating... yeah the list can go on

hope it was a good enough answer
And to add there are certain Delay FX with parameters like this built in, mostly the filter part...

http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-Dub

btw try all his FX and synths... great stuff
Hypnotic Vice

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Posted : May 26, 2010 14:24
Thanks for your advice. Yeah, I know there are a few FX that do this with the filter. Of course, I'd rather do it with my own FX.

Automating the FX parameters to increase like you described is what I do now. It works OK but it's still not quite what I am looking for. Because I want to be able to have a new note ring... so the "new" feedback of the new hit only has a bit of the FX on it, while the "old" feedback of the old hit is very thick with FX. I guess "all-in-one solutions" are the best bet for this kind of thing?
psycox
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : May 26, 2010 20:57
try the mfm2 vst from u-he.
http://u-he.com/mfm/index.php?item=features

there are some fx in the feedback path of the signal and you can modulate many parameters directly in th eplugin with lfo´s and Multistage envelopes.
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