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djmalana
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Posted : Jun 27, 2008 05:41
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Hey there! I'm from Brasil, and read this intersting topic so.. i have something to say..
People all time like to talk about PURE LOVE, but i think it's unquestionable that love is unconditional and atemporal. When u love somebody u wish all goodness and don't wait something back.
Here in Brasil we have nice parties coz all time want that people feel comfortable. This means respect. To people feel like that we need to work a lot offering structure and keep it working good. Everybody want to enjoy a good live act or dj set sooo.. we need money to bring this artists aaaand pay for their work. I mean, this artists spend a lot of time and money to produce/play good stuff for us..with love.. they deserve this payment. Soooo.. the organizers need to get this money from people to offer something good. Simple. If people want to feel love in parties they go with this intention, coz love live inside us.. people make the party.. and the organizers same. The police just come to close parties when organizers don't keep good respect with people. We need to proof here that psychedelic parties it's a culture and have a lot of benefits to everybody. Not only for party people but to people out too.
Psychedelic culture is for everyone. [and love as well]
I know u think "here is different" but is not. We have whole world here in Brasil.. we know how jew people think and what Yuli said is not a crazy sentence. But everybody is welcome here coz we respect everyone, every culture. I guess.. when everybody start to think that love means respect.. then everything gonna be good.
[and if u want to enjoy a "pure luv" party on your way.. call your friends to your home and try to make something..]
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episoded
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Posted : Jun 27, 2008 18:02
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Heh nice one.. Never thought opening this topic will bring me my Psychologic profile straight in my face..
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first af all i'm glad that u are open for new things
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I don't watch TV at all except the Euro lately and the 1 hour when I have to see it at the gymnasium every day.
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there is something called "socialization secret agent"
this means that your childhood effect your thinking when u grow older [this is variable from one man to another] , not by your personal will.
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PURE LOVE is ( in my opinion, correct me if I am wrong ) something every person seeks in his life, and I believe he / she supposed to be happy to get it ONE TIME ( leave Mothers love and dogs love aside ).
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every person got his own meaning for PURE LOVE.. lets remmember this
the concept of PURE LOVE is not in the dictionary if i remmeber rigth
even in israel there is plenty of pll who have PURE LOVE for other things aside Mothers love and dogs love.
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ultra-orthodox to god
a boy to a girl
for your family
raver to the music
and be surprised.. even some orgs to thier dream of ppl to be united at parties and share thier love with the ppl
i know that not every org is like this.. even less then wanted but they are here and they are alive
the nature of ppl is interest.. but those that can forget thier interests for one day can bring PURE LOVE to the parties.
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So when someone says that PURE LOVE is everywhere around, that every single party org is full of PURE LOVE... It sounds a bit naive ( and I really try to use the nice words so you wont say again that I am mad with the world )
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of course not ALL orgs do that
we cant generalize... but again.. there is some our next goal will be to support those who do
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And one to finish with this interesting argument... Israel is one of the last places on this planet one can see PURE LOVE... I am saying this because for me, as Israeli, it's little sad. And if you, Episoded, can't see this, then YOU are the blind one out of two of us.. And our country is in a very wrong situation at the moment, and not because of anyone outside, but because of us, it's citizens. And because of this situation, PURE LOVE is very rare around here.
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im not naive or blind but i try to be positive and optimistic as much as i can cuz if i won't tust anyone.. how my life will look like?
... the whole world is hostile somehow
in every country thier are UGLY FACES we cant deny it. and yes, israelies do horrible things sometimes but who dont?
no one is "TALIT SE COLA THELET" we all know this. so israel is ok at last
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PURE LOVE is very rare around here.
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very rare? ok.. but its here
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This is ofcourse only me, as I see it.. But I do have the chance to see different societies and their behaviour, and this is my conclusion for time being. Hope it will change!!
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thumbs up
Cheers!
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Ananda604
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 10:43
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Well, I got somethings to add.
1) Yuli is pretty right (not new)
BUT, there are some differences...
I wouldn't expect a ticket to X-dream+another big international group to cost 50 nis.
But it seems these days prices got crazy anyway.
even parties with one medium psy act are charging 120 nis. that's very expensive, especially if you consider the gas you use to get to the party, the drugs you take (if you take) or the alcohol, water,food, cigs, etc ...
so I think that production should return to the sources and lower the entree fees (I am not speaking about the huge expensive events)
I know they want to cover the party and earn the money, but sometimes they are TOO greedy.
and a lot of ppl don't have that money to spend so they don't come (we know 80% of satlanim don't have a serious job lol) .
I think it should get back to top 80 on international medium artists , and on only israeli acts 40-60, like it used to be
this inflation is killing everybody!
thanks for listening
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 13:23
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On 2008-06-27 18:02, episoded wrote:
every person got his own meaning for PURE LOVE.. lets remmember this
the concept of PURE LOVE is not in the dictionary if i remmeber rigth
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Here we disagree... While the concept of LOVE is personal indeed... The concept of PURE LOVE has a simple translation - Give love without expect ANY return. The point here is not in the way you give love but in a total lack of expectation to get something back from it.
So all your examples are not really correct and I won't go into small details, but in our western capitalistic society there is no place for Pure Love since all is based on loss vs profit.
So... I have seen many HAT PARTIES last years, in Israel which is a good example for PURE LOVE parties, since in their primary idea, those parties are ready to LOOSE money in order to give the participants the fun, and let them decide how much to pay for the event in the end of it. But in most of those HAT parties, usually there is the intention to break even / not to loose money. I am DEFINITELY NOT critisizing that since for me a person that makes event with no interest of profit is already a GREAT THING. BUT it is not pure love... Since pure love, is giving without expecting a return - be it money / drink / whatever else.
Great example of this is indeed Mother Teresa that was doing her thing in Calcutta, and was doing it for the matter of doing, with a lot of hardship and poverty, but she had a vision, and in this vision she put all her mind, body and soul. This is why there are books written about her, this is why she is renowned now all over the world.
I didn't encounter ( yet ) a trance production of this magnitude And I believe that even try to compare it, is a bit of a heresy..
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Mad_Scientist
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 19:18
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On 2008-06-12 16:27, Mad_Scientist wrote:
we all know how jewish people like to make money of their friends' asses.
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huh??? Jews are thieves AND gay?
dude think twice before you spread your 1930's wisdom....
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gay? your time in the U.S. didn't help your English skills huh?
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On 2008-06-12 16:27, Mad_Scientist wrote:
we all know how jewish people like to make money of their friends' asses.
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huh??? Jews are thieves AND gay?
dude think twice before you spread your 1930's wisdom....
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hoou god.. mad scientist, i think you are so wrong.. by saying that "jawish ppl like to make moeny.." you are jarking off our self respect as a nation, so stupit and poor..
to justify our haters, all the antishemic smull brain..
and about pure love and moeny macking..
i'm doing parties from PURE LOVE, get that???
i'm producing trance parties for a long piriod of time (since 1999), and i NEVER in the most truelly way and honest never made my mind macking moeny of parties, infact there are more parties that i lost TONS moeny over them or "brack even" (output = input), than parties i earned something..
and to mad scientist know this: macking trance parties is ONLY from LOVE, not only 4 me, to a lot of party promoters it is..
in israel we fight everything : the police, the "faces", the costs, the moeny we spoil on the producing is SO HIGH
.. so stop mambeling your ass..
the ONLY thing that make me (and a lot of prod is IL) to keep doing this is the love and the compliments & the good vibs from the friends and the crowd..
and if there is one thing i really ATE is some stupid egotistical negative kid who alway have bed things to say to make a prod that work so hard, and that's what they get... so lame.. so ungrateful..
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Hey "bro", I thought you stopped making parties? Im sure you didn't stop making them because you were too successful. No one argued with you that it's hard making parties.
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Mad_Scientist
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 19:22
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On 2008-06-21 20:21, d.j k-pax wrote:
tzachi do me one small faivore....
please take your time after writing a topic and check your spelling please..... 70% of your words are misspelt so it is really hard and unplesent to try and read the topic... or demands to re read and try to understand exactly what u ment
love u bro
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eitan, if you are such a good friend as you think you are, and you respect me, you sure can understand it's insulting to say things like that to me in a public forum..
but as you all see i try to make less spalling mistakes, but sometime i can't avoide of making them, maybi i have problem to concentrate when i'm writing but ppl easelly understand my point.. (if they wont to) it's more easy to make fun of me instade..
meiby i'm dumb but you are dumber for being such a hard ass to a friend..
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PURE LOVE in the making people! Dont miss this!
PURE LOVE = NAIVE
Reminds me of me when I dropped my first/2nd time...ohhh the good ol' days. |
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episoded
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Posted : Jun 30, 2008 21:35
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On 2008-06-27 18:02, episoded wrote:
every person got his own meaning for PURE LOVE.. lets remmember this
the concept of PURE LOVE is not in the dictionary if i remmeber rigth
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Here we disagree... While the concept of LOVE is personal indeed... The concept of PURE LOVE has a simple translation - Give love without expect ANY return. The point here is not in the way you give love but in a total lack of expectation to get something back from it.
So all your examples are not really correct and I won't go into small details, but in our western capitalistic society there is no place for Pure Love since all is based on loss vs profit.
So... I have seen many HAT PARTIES last years, in Israel which is a good example for PURE LOVE parties, since in their primary idea, those parties are ready to LOOSE money in order to give the participants the fun, and let them decide how much to pay for the event in the end of it. But in most of those HAT parties, usually there is the intention to break even / not to loose money. I am DEFINITELY NOT critisizing that since for me a person that makes event with no interest of profit is already a GREAT THING. BUT it is not pure love... Since pure love, is giving without expecting a return - be it money / drink / whatever else.
Great example of this is indeed Mother Teresa that was doing her thing in Calcutta, and was doing it for the matter of doing, with a lot of hardship and poverty, but she had a vision, and in this vision she put all her mind, body and soul. This is why there are books written about her, this is why she is renowned now all over the world.
I didn't encounter ( yet ) a trance production of this magnitude And I believe that even try to compare it, is a bit of a heresy..
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well my friend.. u haven't changed my mind
what can i say?
hope we all be more optimistic
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godzil
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 17:59
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On 2008-06-21 20:21, d.j k-pax wrote:
tzachi do me one small faivore....
please take your time after writing a topic and check your spelling please..... 70% of your words are misspelt so it is really hard and unplesent to try and read the topic... or demands to re read and try to understand exactly what u ment
love u bro
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eitan, if you are such a good friend as you think you are, and you respect me, you sure can understand it's insulting to say things like that to me in a public forum..
but as you all see i try to make less spalling mistakes, but sometime i can't avoide of making them, maybi i have problem to concentrate when i'm writing but ppl easelly understand my point.. (if they wont to) it's more easy to make fun of me instade..
meiby i'm dumb but you are dumber for being such a hard ass to a friend..
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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Psy_Clone
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Posted : Jul 1, 2008 22:24
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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LOL This are the most understandable words in this forum and i understood each and every one of them, pure love rules!!!
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d.j k-pax
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 23:06
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On 2008-06-21 20:21, d.j k-pax wrote:
tzachi do me one small faivore....
please take your time after writing a topic and check your spelling please..... 70% of your words are misspelt so it is really hard and unplesent to try and read the topic... or demands to re read and try to understand exactly what u ment
love u bro
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eitan, if you are such a good friend as you think you are, and you respect me, you sure can understand it's insulting to say things like that to me in a public forum..
but as you all see i try to make less spalling mistakes, but sometime i can't avoide of making them, maybi i have problem to concentrate when i'm writing but ppl easelly understand my point.. (if they wont to) it's more easy to make fun of me instade..
meiby i'm dumb but you are dumber for being such a hard ass to a friend..
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
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never the less u wrote the right latters but misplaced.... its still not like writing 3 wrong letters in a 7 letters word.. even if u were right in the first and the last once
cheers
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 04:54
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we all know how jewish people like to make money of their friends' asses.
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huh??? Jews are thieves AND gay?
dude think twice before you spread your 1930's wisdom....
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gay? your time in the U.S. didn't help your English skills huh?
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ok, beofre i thought you're a dumbass...now i KNOW you're one!
if you didnt get my play on words you're just not the sharpest knife in the kitchen so i'll use your type of thinking process and conclude that "we all know how *Indian* people like to make dumbass racist remarks about other races" and since you're a bit slow i'll add that in case you are not Indian insert your nationality between the *_ _ _* dumbass!
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Mad_Scientist
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 12:53
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On 2008-06-12 16:27, Mad_Scientist wrote:
we all know how jewish people like to make money of their friends' asses.
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huh??? Jews are thieves AND gay?
dude think twice before you spread your 1930's wisdom....
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gay? your time in the U.S. didn't help your English skills huh?
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ok, beofre i thought you're a dumbass...now i KNOW you're one!
dumbass!
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You show your weaknesses by making personal attacks again me... kinda sad. |
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omka
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 19:07
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On 2008-06-09 15:09, Yuli wrote:
PS. Actually I am fighting wind mills here...
5 years ago or more, I discovered a fact that made me very upset. I discovered that standard raver / trance lover, would prefer to swallow a pill that costs 60NIS over going to a shop and buy a CD that he likes for the same price.
When I discovered that it was overwhelming news... Never got this, so considering my little revelation from 5 years ago, opening this topic was completely useless...
Heh
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my man...
i like what u said and i'm with you on this one.
however most of the artists that i like and respect is almost unreachable in israely music stores ,most of the music in tower records ,zlil and even krembo records is commercialised and not really my pill...
so untill these stores won't bring orand import real music ...
i will continue to spend my 60 shekels on the pill i actually like
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hahaha easy for you to say , its even easier to get in to www.psyshop.com and order any cd the is in allmost any store in the world and take same time like writing a post in isratrance, soo for further future if u got no prob. to spend it on a good cd that will make u smile for years, here u got a sulotion
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 20:37
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we all know how jewish people like to make money of their friends' asses.
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huh??? Jews are thieves AND gay?
dude think twice before you spread your 1930's wisdom....
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gay? your time in the U.S. didn't help your English skills huh?
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ok, beofre i thought you're a dumbass...now i KNOW you're one!
dumbass!
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You show your weaknesses by making personal attacks again me... kinda sad.
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Editing a post to not show your racist remakrs or not show why you're a dumbass is LAME! so let's just conclude this conversation with me being one of these "jewish people like to make money of their friends' *asses"(*see my "gay" remark) AND a sad human that shows his weaknesses by attacking you...YOU = dumbass and post editing racist!
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Oran
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Posted : Jul 3, 2008 20:52
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o.k, i think thats enough...
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