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Dear Artist, how many copies of your album were sold?
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Chambao
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Posted : Aug 28, 2007 04:13
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im sorry if this isnt relevant, but i didnt read all of the comments, only till page 2.
so, you people are all missing the point!
psytrance isnt about making lots and lots of money and getting rich and buying stock options and building huge mansions!
psytrance is about the people! its about having fun, having a good internal voyage while partying, and connecting with yourself!
you wanna make lots of money? go into the house genre, go pop music, go rap.
if you're all about the money, do not do psytrance.
most people that do enjoy psytrance, are not rich, you wont see businessmen digging around in a rave.
so this is my opinion, you want money? quit trance. you want passion in music, while really giving out a piece of your mind in an aural way? go psy.
hope this doesnt offend no one :-D
Peace n` Love
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 28, 2007 05:24
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dj jaimz
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Posted : Aug 28, 2007 06:11
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Mostly there's been some accurate information in this thread but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is that in the last year or so - especially sales for the peak period (Northern Hemisphere Spring - Mar/Apr/May) - were this year about HALF what they were last year. This is across the board, for almost all labels.
I would be very surprised to hear if anything that's been released this year has gone over 1000. You'd be lucky to crack 500. |
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Chambao
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Posted : Aug 28, 2007 06:28
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On 2007-08-28 05:24, Colin OOOD wrote:
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im sorry if this isnt relevant, but i didnt read all of the comments, only till page 2.
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Then you might not be surprised to hear that your post completely missed the point of this thread.
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sorry  ...
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full_on
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Posted : Dec 2, 2007 04:36
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OK, any more input from the artists and labels?
Maybe fresh info?
Respect!
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Vibe Tribe
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Posted : Dec 2, 2007 22:06
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On 2007-08-28 06:11, dj jaimz wrote:
Mostly there's been some accurate information in this thread but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is that in the last year or so - especially sales for the peak period (Northern Hemisphere Spring - Mar/Apr/May) - were this year about HALF what they were last year. This is across the board, for almost all labels.
I would be very surprised to hear if anything that's been released this year has gone over 1000. You'd be lucky to crack 500.
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well i wont talk about any other lables, but ill say about the lable im signd in, Utopia rec, the weakest cd (lets not mention the name) sold a bit over 500 , the stronger ones pass 1200-1500 and this only in japan, i dont know about the numbers in europ.
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KINO OKO
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Posted : Dec 2, 2007 23:27
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being niche of a niche on this scene we dont expect to sell more than 200 of new Bigwigs, almost nothing. its hard mission guys. you have to beleive in music, otherwise you would cry and jump out of the window.
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Dec 3, 2007 01:21
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KINO OKO
Bigwigs
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Posted : Dec 3, 2007 12:49
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sure, thats fine! hope this situation will bring some money to the scene.
little bit off topic but strongly connected thought with CD sales:
scene is in weak condition, thats the fact. being both music lover and experienced composer (well, im involved more than 10 years... or more?) i see simply mechanism which ruins this scene. And as it is usually, money is the issue.
So many young and unexperienced people start to compose and release just for pleasure, just to be present on the forums, whatever... and there is nothing wrong with it except you connect this fact with money income from such releases. They dont get half penny back from it. Parallely, all of them growing up, getting older, life goes on, having children. There is a moment in their lifes, obviously, that they realize need of money to live. Because this music is not a good source, all of them have to find regular job to earn. in best situation music become only kind of hobby for them and they never reach professional level, never develop his artistic skills as they should. Many of them abandon music making knowing that no money will finally come to them as payment for their effort. being involved in real mature life they dont see future, dont see reason to develop musically... unless its passion of their life.
please notice, all known and really good artists are profesionals living for the music and copmosicn for living, present on the scene for many years.
have you got my point?
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simon_marklar
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Posted : Dec 4, 2007 04:05
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5 tons of flax is sitting at about 250 copies. might of sold a couple more in the last two months.
that about 20% of the amount of times i've seen it downloaded (and thats only counting sites with download counters on them, nevermind the ftp servers and such)
So i'd like to thank the 250 people who have supported us, our next comp will be dedicated to you 
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Dec 4, 2007 06:33
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people who buy trance music are idiots - psyreviews....
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rich
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 00:51
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On 2007-12-02 23:27, KINO OKO wrote:
being niche of a niche on this scene we dont expect to sell more than 200 of new Bigwigs, almost nothing. its hard mission guys. you have to beleive in music, otherwise you would cry and jump out of the window.
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The great reviews are rolling in ( http://forum.isratrance.com/bigwigs-the-national-heroes-of-sonic-parallel-horns-and-hoofs-entertainment-nov-2007/ )
Expect more than 200.
Would love for you to update this thread with count at the end of the year.
Wishing you the best of luck.
This album is absolutely amazing.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 04:11
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The first and only Dharma Kshetra comp sold 380 copies to date. I worked hard for this comp and I am very happy 380 ppl liked it Bom and love to all of the for the support. |
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Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 12:05
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On 2007-12-03 12:49, KINO OKO wrote:
sure, thats fine! hope this situation will bring some money to the scene.
little bit off topic but strongly connected thought with CD sales:
scene is in weak condition, thats the fact. being both music lover and experienced composer (well, im involved more than 10 years... or more?) i see simply mechanism which ruins this scene. And as it is usually, money is the issue.
So many young and unexperienced people start to compose and release just for pleasure, just to be present on the forums, whatever... and there is nothing wrong with it except you connect this fact with money income from such releases. They dont get half penny back from it. Parallely, all of them growing up, getting older, life goes on, having children. There is a moment in their lifes, obviously, that they realize need of money to live. Because this music is not a good source, all of them have to find regular job to earn. in best situation music become only kind of hobby for them and they never reach professional level, never develop his artistic skills as they should. Many of them abandon music making knowing that no money will finally come to them as payment for their effort. being involved in real mature life they dont see future, dont see reason to develop musically... unless its passion of their life.
please notice, all known and really good artists are profesionals living for the music and copmosicn for living, present on the scene for many years.
have you got my point?
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Mr. Bigwig, I follow your comments with delight recently. what you said here is so true. That is the explanation for the overflow of cut n' paste music, with not much soul or vision within. I don't get those ppl that claim that Psytrance is underground scene and therefore artists shouldnt expect to get paid / earn money from their music.
People must understand the "underground" is not an excuse for "bad quality", "no ideas", "no vision", "cloning" etc.. "underground" means music with much more vision than the ordinary "hit" music, music with wicked ideas, that to get into them u must listen more than once or twice, music that grows on you with each listening - THAT is underground. To create such music an artist needs time, soul, musicality, talent, persistance, and a lot years of previous work - EXPERIENCE. All these years of training cost money my friends, and those of you that still think that "it's ok u can sit in the studio after work for a few hours every day" - I have news for you - you haven't got a clue what a creation process is. And maybe the reason for the fact you haven't got a clue, is that you listen to so much re generated, copied, cloned, uninspired and empty music, that you don't know anything else that is different.
So maybe it's the time to try it...
Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink ( James Holden remix )
This is original, from 2004 so many artists were inspired with this tune including the biggest name of Techno today. This is a lesson in composition and emotion. To get into making this, one had to have the time to learn, and grow, and create an artist from himself. This can't be done on weekends.
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Dec 6, 2007 22:08
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Always was hard to live or to earn money with the art, if you take any type, I have a friend who is realy talended painter and actually lives for painting but he never got a big gallery for exposition, so he had to work as teacher to pay his living coasts. There are many factors there that makes difference and make your live from your passion, anyway todays situation with music business is not only problem with psytrance every genre is selling less each year. But there are stil posibillities for real and talented musicians and pruducers you can besides producing psytrance you can also produce sound for the TV's, videogames etc to pay your bills imho.
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