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Dear Artist, how many copies of your album were sold?
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moki
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Posted : Sep 17, 2009 17:10
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On 2009-09-17 12:10, Axis Mundi wrote:
You've said many times that refuse to pay for music anyway, so why should any artist care about your opinion or pay you for your services?
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hey, axis, dont know why you continue talking to me in isratrance and at the same time complaining that i talk to you. so you want an answer or not, can you be a bit more clear?
i am not refusing to pay, i just dont pay everything i hear. btw what i said many times some months ago, is not the case any more because i started this firm in the recent months so now i have more money for entertainment media than earlier in this thread. okey? now you can complain in 10 other threads why i write to you - i write cause you ask me.
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moki
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Posted : Sep 17, 2009 17:13
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and btw i am not wanting any money for my " services". is it clear enought for you. my website is for free and i know what i am doing.
but i could offer you services that i have in my side marketing firm, only if you want. i am not dependent on any of you for these services, otherwise i would collide financially. but you like to obviously change the truth in any post of mine that you see. may be you could really stop talking to me finally.
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bbgun
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Posted : Sep 17, 2009 19:43
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Just out of curiosity Moki, what is your clientele thus far like? |
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moki
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Posted : Sep 17, 2009 20:22
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cars, hotels and real estate.
i just dont know why almost all people from this forum that i know personally, have to be totally different online. like axis mundi, i remember very well as he was sitting here and telling me about the uniqueness of our visual concept for the party we made on the tibetan book of the dead. now he is playing the game, as if he would not know why i expect people to get my services:)))). i expect this only from people with a consciousness of uniqueness. the rest can use other marketing services from other people:))))).
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Ascension
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Posted : Sep 17, 2009 22:09
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moki
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Posted : Sep 18, 2009 10:08
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well we are in a marketing thread, i have to demonstrate how viral marketing is done.  )))
here a link for those to whom the word is new:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing
( it is worth googling for viral marketing and strategies used in social networks for those who find this topic important)
about the uniqueness:
well if you could tell me about any comparable visual concept of a trance event, then this one has to be considered unique ( especiall the bardo phases synchronised with the music):
http://www.psychedelic-experience.info/
if it doesnt make sense to you, it might lie on your own capacity to make a difference:))). anyway, i am done with my social web work for this year, now i am gonna do for you a special website with my services for trance with portfolio. may be you could need the services though. once more the offer:
website cms+video advertisement for your label, act, event or shop+ vj work for your tracks, all done by one hand incl hosting.
write me on tina@timewavezero-productions.com
lovely golden autumn greets for you all and keep it up with the releases. the only thing that this topic changed for me , is that i listen less releases than earlier and dont go to download anymore. if this is what you wanted, then it is done.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Sep 18, 2009 20:00
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| hey, axis, dont know why you continue talking to me in isratrance |
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Because it's a public forum, and since any thread you begin posting in ends up consisting 50%+ of posts from you... are you really that bewildered why people respond to you?
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| now you can complain in 10 other threads why i write to you |
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I only complained in one thread.  You are the one taking the discussion to other threads. (Like this one, for example)
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| i write cause you ask me. |
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LOL, uhm, no! The only time I've had anything to say to you per private message since your cosmic octave phase was to a.) Ask you why you were sending creepy shit to me and forwarding it to other people, and b.) Telling you to stop writing me and that I was blocking you (which didn't work because you just started PM'ing me here instead)
It's true that I did ask you to hang out when I was in Berlin a few months ago, because I was trying to be more open minded than to assume you weren't really the [[EDIT: That was rude of me to say]] you portray yourself on the forums (which you exactly turned out to be) and I never sent you a single mail until you started trying to lick my boots electronically and forwarding it to whomever to read.
I certainly never asked you to write me privately, and I DEFINITELY didn't ask you to write me privately to tell me you were dreaming about me and if I could come see you again or you see me. And also CERTAINLY not to forward that creepy shit to other people so I could deal with having to explain to them WTF you were talking about when they wrote me back about it all confused. How ridiculous! hahaha
Of course, the only reason I'm bothering to talk about this here is because you brought it up in this thread.
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| i am not wanting any money for my " services". |
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Wow, I guess you were serious about those affordable prices you meant! lol
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| but i could offer you services that i have in my side marketing firm, only if you want. |
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There would be no way in my right mind I would let you market my music project. You spoke earlier of artist attitudes making a difference to you... I don't care how good at marketing you are, after reading your consistently negative attitudes condescension, and just plain utter nonsense, towards just about every aspect of this scene, there's no way in hell any sane artist would let you touch their project name.
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| i remember very well as he was sitting here and telling me about the uniqueness of our visual concept for the party we made on the tibetan book of the dead. |
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Yes, it was a badass idea, but it wasn't YOUR idea (one of the best for a party that I have seen), it was a group idea, and that Psychedelic Experience party in Basel wasn't engineered entirely by you. It was a team effort and you were a part of that team. Not you alone (hence your use of "we", lol).
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moki
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 10:40
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buah, now you even started in this thread. okey, off topic off now PLEASE. this one is the only topic that i considered a bit more serious. can we stop on topic please ?
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about the idea about the visual concept: no i dont stand alone behind the idea. and yet, i did the visuals alone for this concept - there were some added visuals on other floors but the tibetan book visuals with the bardos did not come from another person . and btw the first year we did it, it was even for free of my side. and if you try to put another truth on air, then it is a lie. you can ask the appropriate places for more information. but you seem to be very concerned about killing the name of the one who did it.not that it is so important but may be you can finally stop mixing reality with your own conclusions, especially that you do it in every thread where i see you.
but anyway, keep writing creepy shit. the only thing i need to correct in your post, is that i were licking your boots. sorry, you seem to have missunderstood something entirely:)))). sorry to make laugh at you but you seem not to get the idea that you the only to write off topic here and everywhere about some imaginary messages of me where i lick your boots. wow what a virus you are, really. so can we leave it now in public please. if you wanna discuss in public then do it with public arguments also.
( now we all got your story about my imaginary messages , sorry to have ever come in contact with you, this is why i dreamed about you - i said i had a dream and it was a very bad one). nightmare was the right word in english, i used to wrong word, sorry.
stop repeating i would have dreams about you. i had one but it was really bad and i see i had a reason. cause you simply dont stop fighting with me.
yeah kill the name now. according to you, i dont even do my visual concepts alone. what a bullshit. is this what you always do with " the best partys you ve seen"? to kill the ones who stood behind it.
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bbgun
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 11:05
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Dreaming of each another eh? So sweet. |
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moki
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 11:20
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oh and axis, you seem to know german and english a little bit, may be you could really just open my website and think once more if it is okey to tell me that i find every aspect of these scene negative. it is absolutely childish and kiddy to say this. all aspects i have on my website as videos, are features as positive and spreaded for free because of this reason.
can you stop writing lies?? come and shoot me so that i am finally dead fo rthese scene, it would make you so happy right? just do it.
we didnot have a one nighter, we had some hours before i took a flight and it was too fast to even get to know you, so it is ridiculous to say i were licking your boots. i had a night mare man. this was the dream.
anyway. it is hard to communicate with you. this is why i dont really make the offer officially, cause i know you are gonna kill the name of my website and work even more. find someone else to work with , then. i am perfectly okey with what i already did for the scene, it is enough. i am sure i can be more accepted in any other artistic field than trance where everyone believes i am crazy about him.
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moki
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 16:31
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On 2009-09-19 11:05, bbgun wrote:
Dreaming of each another eh? So sweet.
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no, we are not dreaming of each other, and your suggestion about the one nighter is not totally right either ( why do you change your posts so fast btw) - we are just having an absolutely boring conversation in isratrance which should help anyone see reality and help all my projects die as fast as possible. really, why dont you just fucking come and kill me in the night finally. hack my websites, kill my projects, kill the name of all parties i have done and where i played.
dont worry, even this " one of best partys you have seen" will not happen next year. you are happy with it? you ruined the name of my project so fast and surely very successfull. make it alone the next time if you can! make something similar alone. i am out of this boring game of losers and egos.
dont even know why i suggested a cooperation . this scene is the sickest there could be. especially because there always has to be a male name behind the best projects. otherwise your world views collapse. whatever. hope not to see anything adressed to me anymore here.
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 16:58
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What are you talking about? I never had anything to do with that event and whatever reason it's not happening has nothing to do with me.
As far as "ruining your project", all I did was say in this thread why I'd never let you market my project name, based upon your attitude as expressed by the things you say on here. And I'm not a murderer or a hacker, so you'll have to get those requests filled elsewhere, sorry.
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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 20:55
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I found Moki's website (some good video interviews  ) and some other links and stuff said here interesting, but maybe we should go back to the point of the thread, which is at least in part about getting feedback from people who actually release music (labels and artists).
Please?
Respect!
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TranceVisuals
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Posted : Sep 20, 2009 18:11
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maybe we should go back to the point of the thread, which is at least in part about getting feedback from people who actually release music (labels and artists).
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Good point, as enjoyable as the last few pages have been, they have derailed what was an interesting and informative thread for the most part. |
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Basilisk
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Posted : Sep 21, 2009 03:55
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