Dear Artist, how many copies of your album were sold?

On 2007-12-12 15:33, DETOX wrote:

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On 2007-12-12 12:31, shachar wrote: infected mushroom sold around 80,000 copies from the supervisor CD.

Man i dont know you gives you these numbers but they are not even close to reality.

Israeli people always exaggerated with their sales.

Even if Infected Mushroom though managed in the future to sell these numbers they would be the exception to the rule.

In any case dear Basic if you have sold 2000 copies and your numbers are still growing then you are already a psy trance star near the magnitude of Wizzy Noise,Electric Universe,Etnica and more.

Congratulations and good luck on selling 5000 copies on your next album....

P.S Get serious mate.

On 2007-12-12 11:59, DETOX wrote:
If Basic was selling 2000 copies then the big names would sell 5000-6000 copies on average.

At the moment big artists sell around 2500-3000 copies maximum.Its their words not mine.

On 2008-09-02 02:19, overtonez wrote:

also some people spoke about how artists have to concentrate on original sound, otherwise the genre will become stale...like old skool dnb and techno etc. and will eventually die out. i think only people running the labels these days can sort that out. are you trying to just sell cds and make money, or trying to promote sound that you like, or find innovative? because it is effecting artists as well. artists tend to believe that the only way a label would sign them is if they make music like, say, astrix, because astrix sells! as a result, everybody is making music like him, so the market is saturated by copy cats, not doing that great a job, because after all only astrix can make music like astrix : ). the only thing wrong with this situation is that these same guys could come up with their own original music too : )
as far as people are concerned, they will only know good original sound if they get a chance to hear it...and they will only get a chance to hear it if artists get a chance to make it, ie, if labels are providing them with the opportunity to do so, ie, if the labels are willing to encourage and take the risk. and isnt that what psytrance is all about? exploring the realms of technology to come up with fascinating music thats groovy and trippy! isnt that what zappa's interview was about? in the beginning of this thread somewhere...
i think if i was a label and i hope to have one soon, my emphasis wouldnt be on which big artist i can afford to have on my cd and sell x number of copies, but how i can convince people that some new music coming out of an unknown guy which i like is something they should listen to and in time want to listen to.
end of my story telling
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boom!

On 2008-09-02 22:44, The Chilling Spirit wrote:
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On 2007-12-06 12:05, Fu Hsi wrote:

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On 2007-12-03 12:49, KINO OKO wrote: sure, thats fine! hope this situation will bring some money to the scene. little bit off topic but strongly connected thought with CD sales: scene is in weak condition, thats the fact. being both music lover and experienced composer (well, im involved more than 10 years... or more?) i see simply mechanism which ruins this scene. And as it is usually, money is the issue. So many young and unexperienced people start to compose and release just for pleasure, just to be present on the forums, whatever... and there is nothing wrong with it except you connect this fact with money income from such releases. They dont get half penny back from it. Parallely, all of them growing up, getting older, life goes on, having children. There is a moment in their lifes, obviously, that they realize need of money to live. Because this music is not a good source, all of them have to find regular job to earn. in best situation music become only kind of hobby for them and they never reach professional level, never develop his artistic skills as they should. Many of them abandon music making knowing that no money will finally come to them as payment for their effort. being involved in real mature life they dont see future, dont see reason to develop musically... unless its passion of their life. please notice, all known and really good artists are profesionals living for the music and copmosicn for living, present on the scene for many years. have you got my point?

Mr. Bigwig, I follow your comments with delight recently. what you said here is so true. That is the explanation for the overflow of cut n' paste music, with not much soul or vision within. I don't get those ppl that claim that Psytrance is underground scene and therefore artists shouldnt expect to get paid / earn money from their music.

People must understand the "underground" is not an excuse for "bad quality", "no ideas", "no vision", "cloning" etc.. "underground" means music with much more vision than the ordinary "hit" music, music with wicked ideas, that to get into them u must listen more than once or twice, music that grows on you with each listening - THAT is underground. To create such music an artist needs time, soul, musicality, talent, persistance, and a lot years of previous work - EXPERIENCE. All these years of training cost money my friends, and those of you that still think that "it's ok u can sit in the studio after work for a few hours every day" - I have news for you - you haven't got a clue what a creation process is. And maybe the reason for the fact you haven't got a clue, is that you listen to so much re generated, copied, cloned, uninspired and empty music, that you don't know anything else that is different.

So maybe it's the time to try it...

Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink ( James Holden remix )

This is original, from 2004 so many artists were inspired with this tune including the biggest name of Techno today. This is a lesson in composition and emotion. To get into making this, one had to have the time to learn, and grow, and create an artist from himself. This can't be done on weekends.