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Dealing with resonant filter sweeps...
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aciduss
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Posted : Jun 30, 2012 20:57:02
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When automating synths' resonance to make them scream but avoid messing with the mix... what is like the right way to go? compressing? limiting? what do you usually do under these circumstances. thnks -.- |
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Suloo
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Posted : Jun 30, 2012 22:31
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do not overuse resonance and remove critical frequencys..
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Padmapani
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Posted : Jul 1, 2012 04:55
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turn the resonance down. if it still works then good, but probably the sound will lose its "shine". if it will not sweep over a large range eq can help, or you could try some compressing if it's not too bad. but generally, i find it better to throw that instrument out if i can't fix it in the synth. |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jul 1, 2012 15:52
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jul 1, 2012 16:04
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The only place where I use mulitband compressors in order to control the bands where the filter gets out of control, cause obviously I don't want to change the resonance setting and keep the sweep screaming, yet control the dynamics of certain areas without afecting the full spectrum of the sweep.
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makus
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Posted : Jul 1, 2012 17:28
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knocz
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Posted : Jul 1, 2012 19:29
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On 2012-07-01 15:52, faxinadu wrote:
you said it yourself - compressing
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On 2012-07-01 17:28, makus wrote:
volume automation 
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That!
You have a synth that outputs at normal specific volume. When bringing the resonance of your filter way high, you are really boosting that frequencies until it produces it's own harmonics, perhaps clipping to achieve this i dunno.. but the result is a specific tone (like a whistle or a laser). This tone is going to be way louder than the "normal specific value" the synth was set up to, some most of it just disappears compared to the resonance sound. If you want to use the resonance sound, as it is a huge bit out of control, you need to tame it.
That means lowering the overall volume -> you can use whatever you want to do this. But since the synth patch has a specific tone, the high filter resonance won't respond the same way for each frequency (if your are playing a A (440 Hz) note, than it will have many harmonics at each multiple of that frequency (in a normal case), but might not have other frequencies in there), so it might have lots of peaks while your are playing the filter frequency knob. The easiest way to control this is by compression (TIP: compression is automatic volume automation, that "moves" the volume know according to the input signal and compression envelope): you can set the threshold value so most of the sound's amplitude will be compressed (raised or lowered) to the threshold value, thus obtaining control over the overall amplitude of the sound (you will have a more stable sound coming out).
So you are using the filter as a tone generator, and a compressor to control it. You might want to lower the overall volume of the result, and start shaping it with an equalizer. Do a couple of frequency shifts and listen to it singularly, to see if anything sounds bad an cut it there, and in the mix to see how it glues.
After that its like any other sound, you can process it the way you like (delays are great with time automation -> instant golden rays). Since this is a so crude sound, you can do really much with it! Try lots of distortion, it can do wonders.
If you can. set the filter key -> so you can control the output pitch the filter resonance is producing with a keyboard.
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aciduss
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 08:51
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I love you hippies! Thanks... I liked the multiband compressor thing. Must try other methods or combos too.
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 14:58
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usin a macro knob for the filter and reso with the right amount on both (or automating filter and reso ) could help to get a better sound and maybe minimize processing.
depnd what you are after but often you don't need the same amount of resonance depending of the filter frequency . |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 15:06
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snowdogg
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 17:32
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using a de-esser is a smart idea!
maby try the one by SPL theirs uses phase cancellation, could be cleaner. it was in last months sos |
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 2, 2012 18:01
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more a dynamic eq |
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