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orange
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 19:19
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, And theres no any connection if you buy the daw or download it from the net or got from friends , This is 90% nonsense , I never buy any vst or daw , And i work with an realy old computer - E3300 Duo Core 2 With 2 ram of memo , And i also work here on WaveLab and Sound Forge and all works fine ! .
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no man unfortunately cracked plugins and daw have a sufficient impact on your windows performance.
added keys and services running on registry and system and some of them maybe badly implemented can cause problems in many systems.
and second.. go and buy the software u use the most its the decent thing to do.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 20:58
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For the record, I bought Logic 7 and upgraded from 7 to 8. Dunno if it makes a difference, it still crashes from time to time, but very rarely.
So although it can take a huge load of plug ins Logic has its bugs, well one basically, I get pops and clicks when I have the Ultrabeat kick channel selected.
So even tho its the only bug I have in the software, it is not all right as rain in original software.
Peace out.
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Nov 24, 2011 21:04
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yes flstudio has also bugs.. every app does i just pointed out the cracked thing cos it can have some impact that an original would not.
and we all use some kind of cracked software on our systems.. nobody is hiding behind his finger.
i just like to support things i use cos im placing my self in the developers shoes.
and im not talking about companies like native instruments with a vast pallet of products that give a huge income.
but smaller developers do need the cash and the best so far in terms of vsti (surge, xhip, kairatune(free), diversion etc.) are the best sound wise plugins ive ever used. http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 25, 2011 22:33
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i miss xhip ! really great sounding synth ,would be nice it get ported to mac |
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 13:53
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i really dont get it, when some people start asking this questions...
is it the DAW that makes music? or is it your head??
or... maybe you need a certain daw to use a certain formula you learned on the web...
i have seen alot of people that aparently can make psytrance in cubase, thanks to the tousands of tutorials on web, but then when asked to make the same thing in other daw´s they simple cant do it...
its just like math, some people know how to make calculations and understand the process, others just use a calculating machine and cant live without it
any daw this days is good, if anyone is adapted to their workflow any of them would do what the user wants, your head controls the tool, the daw is only the foking tool, PLEASE... dont start complaining about the tool if your sound sucks, because if your sound sucks, thats because YOUR IDEAS suck and your KNOLEDGE is limited...
for other hand, cubase fans and their usual shit chat about cubase SUPERIORITY is just anoying... cubase is just as good as any other daw this days, if you only can use cubase to make good music, then you are LIMITED; because good producers can actualy use any daw and the result will allways be the same, because their secret is the way they mix, is their ability to place sounds and glue them in against others, something that sometimes, rubish producers are not able off... so then they tend to blame the DAW it self (wich is ridiculous...)
use the daw you foking want, doesnt matter, even plugins... use cheap, free plugins... if you modelate them correctly and mix them correcly, BELIVE ME they will sound good...
but cut the excuses... |
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 15:03
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On 2011-11-26 13:53, Ricciardo wrote:
is it the DAW that makes music ? or is it your head ??
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Sure it the head & skill but this is the daw too . Think when its become to quality no need explanation , You can hear it everywhere , 60% of the psychedelic artists are limiting themselfs by using daws who not fit to the trance world where there you should feel inside the tones , Touch the sound , Be in and ride on , You should feel the story and get those cinematic wraparound/Envelope to hold the all concert together when all is sound natural , Tangible/Perceptible and here .
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i have seen alot of people that aparently can make psytrance in cubase asked to make the same thing in other daw´s they simple cant do it...
its just like math, some people know how to make calculations and understand the process, others just use a calculating machine and cant live without it
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Here its a real nonsense ,
This is all about siting on your butt and learn .. (Years of experience) .
I saw many chinese who talk chinese but when they asked to speak german they simple cant do it ...
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Ricciardo wrote :
any daw this days is good, if anyone is adapted to their workflow any of them would do what the user wants
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Again , Can agree with you there some good around And also that the that the B class producing program during the years get an better sound , No debate about , But there some who never give the real sound the user want/Need , This is not a secret and as i already mention you can hear them everywhere .
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Ricciardo wrote :
your head controls the tool
PLEASE... dont start complaining
if your sound sucks thats because your KNOLEDGE is limited...
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Thats true too m8 , But at the same time there no connection between the two (And you know that) .
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 16:40
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On 2011-11-26 15:03, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
also that the that the B class producing program during the years get an better sound , No debate about
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what B Class?? be more specific, because everytime anyone start a topic like this, it has exacly to do with that type of "complex" that many people have about non standart DAW´s
but you are no longer in 2003, today there isnt absolutly no EXCUSES to talk about DAW´s with more quality than others
you can claim that some give you more default features when you buy them... but definitly using UNIVERSAL tools like vsti or vstfx, wich can be used in whatever DAW you want, its completly useless talk about it
but i allready know that you cubase users tend to make that type of conversation, because you consider your selfs "CLASS A" Daw users, and thinking that makes you good producer and others "CLass B" users "noobs"
i definitly would like to see people make a list of class B and class A DAW´s this days!
because its nonsense
the main diference in audio quality or perfomance is made by the pc you have or the audio device
but please, make your "class B" and "class A" list
i would like to check your arguments, that would give a hell of an offtopic  |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 17:01
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if you are not a wannabe but a real producer and musician from heart and soul than there is no problem you can make music on each sequencer IMO. There are 'hero's' on each sequencer even Venetian Snares on Renoise is to me a virtuoso.
You can make on every sequencer sound without limits.
If you are just a recording engineer - take PROTOOLS ,logic or cubase and forget all others.
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 17:22
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On 2011-11-26 16:40, Ricciardo wrote:
what B Class ?? be more specific
but you are no longer in 2003 ,
today there isnt absolutly no EXCUSES
to talk about DAW´s with more quality than others
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We are in 2012 .. But yet nothing haz change , Sure here and there the technology improve , But sure not compared to the other (And this is somthing peoples here dont understand - The standards are realy different and as i already have said before No need an microscope to see (Hear) them .
I dont think its an good idea writing again lists and those (You see , You dont realy tuch the point im going to , Seems you just trying to 'Wake the deads' around ..) There no point write it again , Who know know ..
Im not puting myself in Class A m8 You are totaly wrong .. I was just lucky i have start with the best (And i dont even want to think of other possibility - If i was start on Class B daw So i may stuck there till today , For me (And only this) Sound like a nightmare . But 'For the record' And out of sanctimoniousness .. Lets face the truth .. There alot of lazy producers who already start with the Class B daws (And work on for may years , And grow with) That today know what im talking about But they are so deep inside (And pro there) In the Class B daws .
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 17:35
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In the end of the day .. After the all jabbering and the bla bla bla ..
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On 2011-11-26 17:01, TimeTraveller wrote:
take PROTOOLS , logic or cubase and forget all others .
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(Next time don't forget put Cubase also in capital letters) .
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 18:05
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My friend is a professional pop producer. He uses Sonar and swears by it. He recently had to switch to Cubase (the new super-duper synth he bought does not interface fully with anything else) and he is fine with that too - but would still rather work with Sonar instead. How come nobody ever mentions it in this forum at all? |
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COMET SHELL
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 18:30
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i dont get it, why is one daw better than another for a type of music. surely its down to personal prefference. i mean wht is one daw better for say psytrance and one better for drum and bass, dont they all have mixers, sequencers, samplers etc. ??? |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 19:39
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On 2011-11-26 17:35, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
In the end of the day .. After the all jabbering and the bla bla bla ..
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On 2011-11-26 17:01, TimeTraveller wrote:
take PROTOOLS , logic or cubase and forget all others .
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(Next time don't forget put Cubase also in capital letters) .
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hehe ok but it was no double meaning from me with the big letters 
Peace and happy debating to all !
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 20:09
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Anything one can do on one DAW, can be done in another is some way. The things that are important are midi sequencing and audio recording. These aspects are good enough to make nay kind of dance music.
As far as sound sources and processing goes, there are 3rd party plug ins and hardware.
For me Logic is perfect, for others Cubase, Ableton, FL studio...etc.
This discussion is only worth its weight in pointless debating to what suits, each person's workflow.
There is no objective outcome on which is the best, only subjective.
Peace out.
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orange
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Posted : Nov 26, 2011 20:47
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if you are a good producer you can make any of the known daws to sound the same.. only difference will be the time you need to get there and this is due to workflow comunication between user and daw.
the rest about sound quality and shit like class A and B is so nonsense like saying justin bieber is awesome!!
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