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David Sonnentiger feat. Parasympathikus - Parasun - Freaky Melodic Full On
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Domingo
David Sonnentiger
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Posted : May 31, 2010 16:27:12
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mica
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Posted : Jun 4, 2010 05:36
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wierd yes , powerful not so much 
Very interesting stuff , and funky too
But is that bass sound an artistic choice , its very unusual , I honestly dont enjoy it.. a bit irritating , could you still change , I think with a really nice fat bass it could really improve the track even more |
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Domingo
David Sonnentiger
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Posted : Jun 10, 2010 12:20
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mica
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Posted : Jun 11, 2010 04:22
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who's else opinion can it be my friend?
I suggested a fatter low end , and lower bass note or pitch so its not so much in your face and overpowering the rest of the track , it sounds cheesy amateurish and I cant stand it anymore after the first few seconds,
I understand that people think this is an art form and its all relative to each one, but sorry that is wrong. Your art form still has a purpose and that is to make people dance, and dance music has some basic rules that must be understood and followed first as to eventually brake them in the future but these rules must be broken properlly,
Bass and kick must sound good and be perfect with each other in the track and never make me tired of hearing it even if its 20 minute long track , and you simply have not acheived this in your track
The artist that puts his shit in a can and sells it for a million dollares has the purpose to make people think and say what the fuck?
You on the other hand are dealing with a totally diferent realm
There are producers a dime a dozen out there any one can make a track , whats really hard is making a fucking good track.
work on it and good luck and most important enjoy yourself, but if you ask for help then this is what you might have to hear |
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dija
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Posted : Jun 12, 2010 23:39
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The bass does take most of the fun out of the track. Theres some really heavy low mid range frequencies in there that mud up the sound. I agree I honestly can't even believe this is a track from a blue name. Hell my name should be blue as hell then. No offense intended there just wasnt anything here that caught my attention but there were things that deferred my attention.
 http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
http://www.myspace.com/eusidmusic |
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Domingo
David Sonnentiger
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Posted : Jun 13, 2010 13:09
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@ mica: hey hey, calm down! On the first hand, I wasn't asking for help, donno why u're having this on your mind. I just posted the track, so simple. And even if u think I'm asking for help, what the fuck is your comment for? U don't give any useful advice inside, just some comments about arts and basslines in general? C'mon.
The thing with the higher and lower bassnote: I've heard both of them in common tracks, mostly I also prefer the deeper ones, but this was an "in your face" - intended one indeed.
@ dija: By heavy low mid range frequencies, you mean the ones around 800 hZ?
Btw: The "blue name" u get for releases, though I have them, I got the name ;-)
http://www.myspace.com/sonnentiger
listn.to/DavidSonnentiger
http://soundcloud.com/david-sonnentiger |
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mica
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Posted : Jun 13, 2010 17:14
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in case you haven't noticed you are in the HELP section of this forum . And believe me you need A LOT! of help
"According to your opinion?" That's what you wrote, think about it and what that might imply ,then maybe you will see the logic behind my post , don't play the dumb and innocent role now!
And why you telling me to calm down? i never raised my voice our showed any disrespect to you ,unlike you. You dont get it, its not the low and high notes! There is two people here kindly trying to tell you that your bass sounds like shit! well in reality the whole track is very very very poor.
I work everyday with Musicians who cannot accept criticism , I produce, record and mix their songs. This is the typical reaction that i get, but you're not paying me so..Our conversation ends here ,
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dija
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Posted : Jun 13, 2010 19:13
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Domingo
David Sonnentiger
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Posted : Jun 14, 2010 10:29
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@ dija: Really, u cut between 250-400 hZ also? Especially this area gives the bite to basslines, I read many times before, here in the "mother of basslines" - thread for example.
@ mica: "according to your opinion" means simply that I don't have the same one. And if u're not pretending to have the absolute psytrance ear, I can't see why u are offended.
Well, in reality I'd never pay for your "work", so that's ok for me.
http://www.myspace.com/sonnentiger
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dija
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Posted : Jun 14, 2010 13:25
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basically the whole thing is too harsh it needs cut everywhere tbh but the most problematic areas appear to be the low mids and mids. my basslines get most of their bite around 500hz and to add extra pluck around 1khz. I just take a high shelf and turn it down and pull it lower until it starts to cut out parts i want then go back a bit. then take some skinny q cuts where needed.
a well crafted bass with good envelopes will need very little eq. some small cuts here and there for other instruments and a low end roll off is all and perhaps a boost to bring out a little harmonic.
and do i cut 250-400 hz? no not usually. my bass source usually doesnt need a cut there. my method is described above. sometimes i'll take a sliver out a little lower thant hat for the kick.
http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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