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Guinea Pigs
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 12:44
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I think everybody got a little confused with the definitions of dark. Has anyone thought that dark simply defines the lack of light,meaning night time???
it's motives correspond better at night,that's it..there's nothing "evil" about it. it's just music. Hell, maybe someone didn't know how to say night music in English and said "dark" instead and it caught up.... Who knows??
But the main issue here is not about evil or good, dark or night or morning. It isn't about stomping or bouncing from side to side jovially either. Everyone is missing the big picture.
Stop being so jealous to your favorite style!!!!!!
To Lokus, i agree with you in a way. Some Night music is annoying but i can say that as well on progressive style, full on, goa etc. And no, you're not too old.... The music probably sucked(still i make it clear that i don't refer to a certain type of genre but to all styles). I felt old like you did in a full on party (the music sucked as well...not the genre but the certain music that was there).
Another reason of people disliking night music and vice versa at parties, is that if there's a "dark" party, it would be totally dark. If it's full on, it'd be totally full on etc.
Just try to imagine a party(or remember 1 if you're a lot of time in this scene), when someone starts playing progressive, another replaces him with atmospheric forest night (G.O.W, Para Halu etc), afterwards a very stressing stomping night(Cosmo, Highko etc) that's being replaced by twilight music (Guinea Pigs, Dark Noize, Illegal Machine) and finished happily with morning style(which can be divided to many mini styles as you all know such as Technodrome, Crazy Ducks, Eskimo, Texas Fagots and many more).
The list of artists i gave were merely examples so don't focus on which artist belong to which genre. I know some would think differently. This is just 1 idea of many more.Focus on the benefit for all. No one can dance for 10-12 hours to the same repetitive tune with little changes... Variate the parties, everyone will have it's favorite time of the party and it won't bore him/her to death.Get my point????
Happy new year to all of you and i hope people would stop these silly little arguments on dark,night ,full on, progressive etc because if you come to think about it - It's all Trance.
Cheers 
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lokus
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 13:09
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yo guinea pigs
i didnt mean "night time"
i love and play night time music. otherwise i wouldnt dj for ambivalent rec i guess. for me "dark"-psy is that superfast 150+, very poorly produced, annoying, stressing and imo not partyable stuff.
since the last boom festival im cured of "dark" psy
peace
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ps: y trance?
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Adigroovy
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 13:37
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There are so many "dark" tracks going under 150 bpm and with very good production and clever ideas. and so psychedelic (did you listen to Quasar - One day or Deja Vue Fabrique)? so why generalising so much man?
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Guinea Pigs
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 14:20
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I believe, Lokus, that some people do like the high bpm style.However, I'm not here to protect this style or other. All I try to say is that if people would be a bit more cooperative then all would enjoy the party.. All styles in 1 party, think about it. Wouldn't it be cool to see "dark" lovers and morning fans at the same party???
In conclusion, there are good and bad in any style. All you need to do is to stay open minded.
Try to imagine you're driving for a lot of time but the landscape never changes even if you love it... A bit boring, don't you think? 
Cheers
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kazuku
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 14:27
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Nowadays I find the most satisfaction in darker psy because to me it has the best atmospheres and I find some releases very psychedelic in contrast to most other stuff....
Sure, sometimes the themes can be seen as evil....its part of the musical trip, confronting yourself with the darker regions of your brain....it emulates the confusion and chaos of the night which everyone has to pass through before dawn....
Also some people are just into scary, dark stuff....like horror movie fans... Doesnt make them evil or the energy bad imo...
To sum up: Some "darkpsy" is the most atmospheric, melodic, fo´real trance there is. (imo). 3 letters: C P C
As far as "BPM limits" are concerned...why would a 148 bpm track be more playable then a 152 BPM track..its a matter of quality,not speed right?
With what intentions is it created?
Once upon a time people got fed up with PUSSYMUSIC
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Ulterior
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 15:10
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kazuku
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 17:35
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On 2007-01-09 15:10, Ulterior wrote:
dark trance cannot be trance is not about killing, blood, violence, or canibals.
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Lol thats blatant generalizing ....thats like a very small number of releases and dosnt reflect "darkpsy". I agree some stuff kind of crosses the borders of good taste but those are different for everyone...most of the stuff should be taken with humor....like trashy cannibal b-movies or something...
Anyhow...Cannibals or chainsaws or whatever are used to build a dark atmosphere...some people like this and can trance to this very well..it just represents the darker side of the psychedelic experience. This doesnt make the producers evil or the listeners psycho (maybe a little^^), its just about confronting terror in the music and in oneself...no one is forcing anyone to listen...
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xrust
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 18:06
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On 2007-01-09 15:10, Ulterior wrote:
dark trance cannot be trance is not about killing, blood, violence, or canibals.
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you forgot burning churches 
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soulfood
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 20:33
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On 2007-01-09 13:09, lokus wrote:
yo guinea pigs
i didnt mean "night time"
i love and play night time music. otherwise i wouldnt dj for ambivalent rec i guess. for me "dark"-psy is that superfast 150+, very poorly produced, annoying, stressing and imo not partyable stuff.
since the last boom festival im cured of "dark" psy
peace
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So you're not generalising a bit there then? Seriously mate. Horses for courses, each to there own, some will agree with you some will disagree... immensely. Myself for example!
There's plenty of well produced "Dark" psy out there which is pouring with inteligent melodies, structure, original sounds and atmosphere's. What your saying reminds me of a friend of mine who thinks classical music is shit because he doesnt like it. It's bollocks.
I think many will benefit from these wise, wise words. Before you go to a party... read the flyer!
Really there is nothing more pointless than posting a thread just to say you don't like something. If there is something you do like, tell us about it and we'll gladly discuss what we like about it and we can suggest other stuff like it that we can enjoy.
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Pt.
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Posted : Jan 9, 2007 22:03
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Ah, the beauty in both ying-yang, dark-light .. It's about the psychedelic moods inside a sphere full of imaginations
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lokus
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Posted : Jan 10, 2007 09:29
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@soulfood :
thanx for giving me such a good advice sensei.
and if you would have read my post before wise man you would know that i do respect some "dark psy" acts. ie "penta", "psychovsky"...
but lets talk about production quality:
on the last boom festival and i heard a lot of these dark psy acts. the soundquality was sometimes below zero in fact it was the poorest ive ever heard.
no clean sounds. very bad mastering. always the same sound and effect.
the effect on the dancefloor:
this was a quite interesting experience. some people were freaking out in front of the soundsystem. some were dancing around. but on the boom festival there is always someone dancing no matter whats playing. most people around the dancefloor looked a bit stressed. there were no real joy and happiness. i was really spurised when i read that some found it sooo "killa" and everyone were so happy. i didnt see that and i went there to just look for it. maybe i have a different way of cognition.
well thats all atm
- last possible solution
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myspace.com/lokuz
ps: y trance?
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Yidam
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Posted : Jan 10, 2007 10:01
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The reason "dark psy" is where it is, is probably the way its marketed. Evil music, evil samples, evil track names, evil album names, evil artwork!, evil record label names.
I dont get why this is being done on purpose because it seems so. The artists are for it and the labels are for it. But I find it absolute hypocricy with the same people who promote it in this manner dont like it when its treated with a negative view. Isn't that what would you want when you make yourself out to be a killargh zombie that will destroy the world?
Then there are solid labels that promote the psychedelic aspect of the music... Discovalley, Tantrumm, DejaVu, Vertigo.... done in the way that it should be done. True to the music and aimed to the listener whose familiar with the genre and who looks past the childish horror flick connections.
The horror thing is cool and all but its apparent that thats a big reason why the whole style is being ridiculed. And as long as its cool for Aghori Tantrik to perform Nectophagy its prolly going to be remain the demon spawn of the psytrance genre (and have way less potential for growth)
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dE.Tonatik
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Posted : Jan 11, 2007 01:06
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very good point u made there Yidam
bravo
i also feel psy -psyched music is way more than gliched -live - cut- sampled music with horror samples or some torture vocals running at 160 ..its good sometimes sure only if it relates to the story in the mind and on the dancefloor
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Bruno_Sankara
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Posted : Jan 11, 2007 03:03
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On 2007-01-07 19:36, psytik wrote:
with what intentions is created darkpsy i ask like things bathomet..what energy they what to send bad energy 4 what do realy dont understand why ?
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mind distortion...hypnotic sounds, obscurity....everythin is part of the psychedelic! no fluffy music!!!
dark rulez!
Stay True folks!!!
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Bruno_Sankara
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Posted : Jan 11, 2007 03:09
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YO!
DARK IS DARK...not night fullon!
obscured, hypnotic and confused!!! |
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